Tubby To Charlotte???

[SCBlu]

My son lives in Greensboro, NC, and reports that local talk shows and (more importantly,sports bar discourse) are buzzing about Tubby taking the Charlotte Bobcats slot to let current Bobcat coach Bickerstaff to get back into club operations, i.e., GM, fulltime. Apparently, this rumor has gotten some legs due to Tubby's inactivity in addressing a self-admittedshortcoming (coaching staff). In the Carolinas, Tubby's lack of movement in this critically important area signals an intent not to saddle UK with the contract salaries of one or two new assistant coacheshired by Tubby,when Tubby's successor will eventually hire his own staff. Makes sense to me.

[bornblue]

Hope not. Tubby is a class act. I don't think he's leaving.

[NotFrank]

I can tell you that as of last night Bernie was planning on moving to the front office so that rumor has major legs. As for the Tubby rumors, they are just that. The fan base here is already disenfranchised with the hiring practices of this organization. If they hire a college coach with no pro experience there will be a problem. I am hearing from two reliable sources, one on the staff, another a former Hornet coach, that Bernie will move upstairs and will be replaced by someone on the current staff or a former Charlotte coach who is still the most popular coach in town. As a Bobcat season ticket holder, I would not renew my tickets if they hired a college coach, not just Tubby. Bob Johnson is a notorius penny pincher from his BET days. It's hard to argue with his wealth, but that isn't the way to build an NBA franchise.

[matt57]

guys, i just don't see this happening. i'm not sure if i want to or not. tubby is a great guy but, everyone can at least agree on the fact that he hasn't got it done recruiting wise recently. that being said, tubby going to charlotte is just not look logical. we all know tubby loves discipline. how many NBA guys you think would laugh at him the first time he tried to give them "the stare"??? i just don't see tubby taking an NBA job. maybe he will. it's just hard to imagine.

[Chunks06]

matt57 wrote: guys, i just don't see this happening. i'm not sure if i want to or not. tubby is a great guy but, everyone can at least agree on the fact that he hasn't got it done recruiting wise recently. that being said, tubby going to charlotte is just not look logical. we all know tubby loves discipline. how many NBA guys you think would laugh at him the first time he tried to give them "the stare"??? i just don't see tubby taking an NBA job. maybe he will. it's just hard to imagine.
I agree. Tubby's style is anti-NBA. Could you imagine him coaching some of the players in the NBA. Stern would probably stop it himself. It could happen but I highly doubt it. The thing about Bernie going to the front office is not new news at all. That has been pretty well known for a long time.

[SamKat]

I have no idea of the validity of this rumor. The Charloote Bobcat owner is the first black billionaire in the USA. Robert Louis Johnson was interviewed in Wednesday's USA Today's Business Section.He is an interesting guy and, reportedly, the first black billionaire in the USA.He is also rumored to be a friend of Coach Tubby Smith.There!I tol' you all I know about it. The article did not mention Tubby that I know of. I just read about two-thirds of RLJ's interview.

[Lost Highway]

Pro fans in Charlotte would probably boycott if Tubby was named their coach. The last Kentucky coach to jump to the NBA was run out of town.

Tubby is not a pro coach and he will stay at Kentucky IMHO. I think it is just a lot of wishful thinking bymany UK fans.

[skyknight1000]

We all remember what happened to Pitino. He was a GOD at UK and no one thought he could ever leave at the time he did. THEN BAM, he was gone. I'm sure it really is rumors, but sometimes, money has a way of talking.

[Buddah]

Chunks06 wrote:
matt57 wrote: guys, i just don't see this happening. i'm not sure if i want to or not. tubby is a great guy but, everyone can at least agree on the fact that he hasn't got it done recruiting wise recently. that being said, tubby going to charlotte is just not look logical. we all know tubby loves discipline. how many NBA guys you think would laugh at him the first time he tried to give them "the stare"??? i just don't see tubby taking an NBA job. maybe he will. it's just hard to imagine.
I agree. Tubby's style is anti-NBA. Could you imagine him coaching some of the players in the NBA.Â* Stern would probably stop it himself. It could happen but I highly doubt it. The thing about Bernie going to the front office is not new news at all. That has been pretty well known for a long time.

Persona or playing style, becasue we are talking playing style, Tubby is a natural for an NBA squad. I see many pro teams that run a varation or close to what tubby runs, with some adjustments. admittley, i can't stand pro basketball, i feel it is very stagnant. i love the college game much better.

I tend to agree with the last poster, Rick was a god here, and many thought, including myself, thought it was just a matter of time until he did leave. most didn't want him to go, but he did. Tubby isn't in the same shape, alot of people want him to go, and the fan base is divided on him on alot of variables, so the two situations aren't similar. the one constant, is when you least expect it, they could go.

alot of coaches aren't pro coaches, including alot of the pro coaches themselves:lol: , but they didn't stop them from cashing the check... the nba has been littered with coaches that arent pro coaches, but they were.

[Will Lavender]

Buddah wrote: Chunks06 wrote:
matt57 wrote: guys, i just don't see this happening. i'm not sure if i want to or not. tubby is a great guy but, everyone can at least agree on the fact that he hasn't got it done recruiting wise recently. that being said, tubby going to charlotte is just not look logical. we all know tubby loves discipline. how many NBA guys you think would laugh at him the first time he tried to give them "the stare"??? i just don't see tubby taking an NBA job. maybe he will. it's just hard to imagine.
I agree. Tubby's style is anti-NBA. Could you imagine him coaching some of the players in the NBA. Stern would probably stop it himself. It could happen but I highly doubt it. The thing about Bernie going to the front office is not new news at all. That has been pretty well known for a long time.

Persona or playing style, becasue we are talking playing style, Tubby is a natural for an NBA squad. I see many pro teams that run a varation or close to what tubby runs, with some adjustments. admittley, i can't stand pro basketball, i feel it is very stagnant. i love the college game much better.

I tend to agree with the last poster, Rick was a god here, and many thought, including myself, thought it was just a matter of time until he did leave. most didn't want him to go, but he did. Tubby isn't in the same shape, alot of people want him to go, and the fan base is divided on him on alot of variables, so the two situations aren't similar. the one constant, is when you least expect it, they could go.

alot of coaches aren't pro coaches, including alot of the pro coaches themselves:lol: , but they didn't stop them from cashing the check... the nba has been littered with coaches that arent pro coaches, but they were.
I agree with you, Buddah. I think Tubby's style fits much better with the NBA than Pitino's.

I agree that Tubby's offense is similar to what you see a lot in the pros. His defense, though, has always been entertaining to me. I like the constant switching, the really tight pressure D that some of Tubby's better teams have played. You don't see that much in the NBA at all.

(Not that they play bad D in the League. Those guys will blow you up defensively. It's just that college defenses are more dynamic and a bit more risky. Tubby's not risky in terms of getting up in the passing lanes, but some of his guys could really get after people when they were on the ball. I like three pointers. I like 90 points games. But to me, that type of defense is also entertainment.)

[T75]

Chunks06 wrote:
Tubby's style is anti-NBA. Could you imagine him coaching some of the players in the NBA. Stern would probably stop it himself. It could happen but I highly doubt it. The thing about Bernie going to the front office is not new news at all. That has been pretty well known for a long time.

I'm not so sureabout a "style" that's anti-NBA.We might ought to look at the Pistons. If ever an NBA team thrived on defense it's the Pistons. And, yeah, sometimes their game gets pretty dull until someone starts hitting some threes.However, they do hold some championships to show for it. I don't particularlylike Tubby ball myself, but with a team orientation (and this is where the Pistons excel but the Cats don't) it can win ball games. Last I knew, the Pistons were playing to full houses regularly too. And, of course, this is what matters most in both college and NBA---are we bringing in the cash?

[Buddah]

you can adjust and i am sure any coach of tubby's caliber would... but the notion that he isn't a pro coach is absurd, was kevin oneil a pro coach, tim floyd, the list goes on and on..I have always said that if tubby is going to go, that the bobcats job will probably be the one he would take for alot of reasons, who knows ? I don't find it as shocking as everyone else, depending on how many years he wants to coach, this would be a good way to build his retirement in much lower stressful enviorment, plus not have to worry about expecations from a expansion team. ultimately, he probably stays here, but he will listen if they come calling, i am sure.

[WWH Mustaine]

I'll be shocked if he goes to the NBA. In fact, I could see him in a front office position in the NBA before I could see him coaching. I just don't think Tubby has the patience to deal with NBA egos on the court.

[Buddah]

look at it like this, would having to deal with NBA egos be as bad as dealing with UK's fanbase... same basic principle. would you rather deal with some egos for a couple years and bring down some nice coin, or deal with a rabid fan base such as ours and bring down some nice coin... same thing i think.:shrug:

[RP_McMurphy]

Would Charlotte deserve thank you notes or sympathy notes?

[Lost Highway]

RP_McMurphy wrote: Would Charlotte deserve thank you notes or sympathy notes?
That's what I'm saying.

But the reality is, Coach Smith has it made at Kentucky. He is bringing down $2,000,000 a year and has a majority of the fan base convinced he is a great coach. The other percent that know better complain, bitch and moan but have zero power to do anything about it. He is a below average recruiter but his loyalist claim that is not his fault, besides he finishes second or third for most of the big boys he goes after. That is just fine for the Faithful.

Kentucky will continue to make millions off of the basketball team, fill Rupp Arena and battle for 2 or 3 in the East for the foreseeable future. Tubby is not going anywhere and we all know it. Why would he?

[WWH Mustaine]

Lost Highway wrote: He is bringing down $2,000,000 a year and has a majority of the fan base convinced he is a great coach. The other percent that know better complain, bitch and moan but have zero power to do anything about it. He is a below average recruiter but his loyalist claim that is not his fault, besides he finishes second or third for most of the big boys he goes after. That is just fine for the Faithful.

Kentucky will continue to make millions off of the basketball team, fill Rupp Arena and battle for 2 or 3 in the East for the foreseeable future. Tubby is not going anywhere and we all know it. Why would he?
Unfortunately, I think you're right.

However, I also think that the number of UK fans that think he's a "great coach" is smaller now than it was a year ago. It's also smaller now than it's ever been.

If the current trend (i.e., downward) continues, his bandwagon will be getting pretty close to empty. If that happens, it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

[NotFrank]

NBA fans I would say are apathetic unless you are one of top 10 teams. That could lead Tubby to leave. The money would be more and the fan pressure would be less. I just can't see it being Charlotte. This is one fan base who is watching Bob Johnson's every move like a hawk. He doesn't have the goodwill in this city that he anticipated. He comes across as aloof, arrogant, and greedy. Albeit he is a very wealthy aloof, arrogant individual so I'm not sure he cares. He's all about profit and has said as much.

I'm willing to bet that 25% of the fan base thinks he's a great coach, 50% think he's a good coach, 25% think he's a horrible coach. He is a combination of the three. He's a great in game adjustment coach, a good x an o coach, and a horrible communicator (closer, media, charisma.) He is not a below average recruiter, he is average. A horrible recruiter wouldn't have a class as strong as this one coming in. Could it have been better, heck yeah. Should we have signed a big time forward in the last six years, heck yeah. However, there are very few coaches who have recruited the guard position as well in the last few years. I think Tubby isa great guy, good coach, horrible coomunicator. I'd prefer he be less of a great guy, more of a good communicator. I want my preacher to be a great guy; I want my basketball coach to eat you alive (without breaking rules of course.)

[AugustaDan]

matt57 wrote: guys, i just don't see this happening. i'm not sure if i want to or not. tubby is a great guy but, everyone can at least agree on the fact that he hasn't got it done recruiting wise recently. that being said, tubby going to charlotte is just not look logical. we all know tubby loves discipline. how many NBA guys you think would laugh at him the first time he tried to give them "the stare"??? i just don't see tubby taking an NBA job. maybe he will. it's just hard to imagine.
I think there are a few coaches in the NBA right now who are strict disciplinarians, so I'm not sure that Tubby would automatically be disqualified from being a good NBA coach.

From that NY Times article on Tubby:
"He's a good coach who has a good personality for an N.B.A. team," Walsh said. "The way he approaches players, the way he coaches his team, his personality is conducive to coaching an N.B.A. team. I can see why he would be interested and the teams would be interested."

Donnie Walsh is one of the top top top guys in the NBA. I'm going to trust him on this one.

The odd thing with Tubby is that the times he's gotten in trouble (team turmoil and last season), it's been because he's not been enough of a disciplinarian, IMO.

[NotFrank]

I would love to be there the first time Tubby yanks"Insert Star Player Name"for a bad shot or gives him "the stare" for a blown assignment...that'd go over like a fart in church.

[wildcatdon]

SCblu,lets hope you are correct..it does make some sense..

[phoenix]

People would probably be more tolerant of your point of view if you didn't make such blatantly out of touch statements to illustrate your out of touch point of view. Tubby IS a great coach by ANY MEANS OF ACCOUNTING forGREAT COACHES. He has to be above average as a recruiter also, by any means that recruiting is toted up. His record speaks for itself. The game is a national game, the fan base of that game, and his peer group of coaches are also a national group. Tubby stands tall by ANY POSSIBLE MEASUREMENT, EXCEPT FOR THE OUT OF TOUCH KY FANS THAT ARE CONVINCED THERE ARE MANY BETTER COACHES OUT THERE.

It is a national forum that appoints judgements ofgreatness and ability to coaches. I don't think anybody in that forum denies Tubby's achievements, and that is why he is such good fodder for articles when he makes a misstep, but by any realistic appraisal his career has been indicative of his capabilities and asserts the fact that he belongs at the top of the field.

Some of you never contemplated Tubby's hiring in the first place, did you? My take is thattheylooked around the league, and noted the one guy out there, located in a great recruiting area, who could cause UK constant headaches and causeus problems in thefuture(AD's aint the smartest toads under the rock but they do understand UK basketball fans), andour AD was just smart enough to hire him. Ofcourse, the long term fan discontent would be expected to surface sooner or later with ANY coach that didn't winevery final four, but Tubbys performance has generally made Barny and Todd's life easier for the last few years.

No where in the country is Tubbyheld in such low regard as he is by the whacked out fans of his own program(supposably fans, anwya).

Lost Highway wrote:
He is bringing down $2,000,000 a year and has a majority of the fan base convinced he is a great coach. The other percent that know better complain, bitch and moan but have zero power to do anything about it. He is a below average recruiter

[Buddah]

guys compare and contrast the personas of college coaches and when they went into the NBA, they change, they are more restrained. look at rick, coach cal, floyd, all of them were different as far as being outlandish in college but reserved in the NBA as far as their demeanor.

its kind of like college coaches always shakng hands after the game, in the pro game they don't. the stare and all out of that would be a thing of the past. hell if you look at old UGA tapes tubby is more reserved at Uk, than he was at UGA and so forth.

[RCS]

I actually think Tubby hasa good personality for the NBA. His specialty is coaching more than motivation which is more important in the NBA for the most part because there are so many games. Pitino tried to get his guys up for every game and eventually they just tuned him out. Tubby's fault as a college coach is that he doesn't get his players high as a kite for every game and in college every game counts much more. In the NBA there is an 82 games season to shake things out and 7 game series so one game is not as important as long term success. Plus there is not recruiting to deal with. He obviously would have to adjust, but I think he can.

What he has going against him is very, very few college coaches have successfully made the jump to the NBA. Larry Brown is about the only exception. This is especially true if the coach has neither played nor coached in the NBA before.

It makes some sense but I seriously doubt it happens.

[NotFrank]

Buddah wrote: guys compare and contrast the personas of college coaches and when they went into the NBA, they change, they are more restrained. look at rick, coach cal, floyd, all of them were different as far as being outlandish in college but reserved in the NBA as far as their demeanor.


Rick was far from reserved in the NBA. These coaches all have one thing in common in the NBA: They all failed miserably. Add Lon Fruger to that list and Mike Montgomery. It baffled me as to why NBA owners/GMs hire college coaches to coach the pro game (usually money.) There's a reason that these guys fail at it. I'm indifferent to Tubby staying/going, but IMO he will fail as an NBA head coach. I don't want him or any other college coach in Charlotte. Since Johnson is cheap, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he went the college route.

[Buddah]

NotFrank wrote:
Buddah wrote: guys compare and contrast the personas of college coaches and when they went into the NBA, they change, they are more restrained. look at rick, coach cal, floyd, all of them were different as far as being outlandish in college but reserved in the NBA as far as their demeanor.


Rick was far from reserved in the NBA. These coaches all have one thing in common in the NBA: They all failed miserably.Â* Add Lon Fruger to that list and Mike Montgomery. It baffled me as to why NBA owners/GMs hire college coaches to coach the pro game (usually money.) There's a reason that these guys fail at it. I'm indifferent to Tubby staying/going, but IMO he will fail as an NBA head coach. I don't want him or any other college coach in Charlotte. Since Johnson is cheap, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he went the college route.

his first year in boston he was far from reserved, but look later on in the tenure, two third year, he was a different coach in many ways. yes they all failed, as most do, but most college coaches are different in the nba as far as persona, just a different game...even the failed coaches get more chances, hell look at kevin oneil and there are many many more.

if the owner of the bobcats is serious about building a team, then penny pinching isn't the way to do it.

[Buddah]

NotFrank wrote:
Buddah wrote: guys compare and contrast the personas of college coaches and when they went into the NBA, they change, they are more restrained. look at rick, coach cal, floyd, all of them were different as far as being outlandish in college but reserved in the NBA as far as their demeanor.


Rick was far from reserved in the NBA. These coaches all have one thing in common in the NBA: They all failed miserably.Â* Add Lon Fruger to that list and Mike Montgomery. It baffled me as to why NBA owners/GMs hire college coaches to coach the pro game (usually money.) There's a reason that these guys fail at it. I'm indifferent to Tubby staying/going, but IMO he will fail as an NBA head coach. I don't want him or any other college coach in Charlotte. Since Johnson is cheap, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he went the college route.

his first year in boston he was far from reserved, but look later on in the tenure, second, third year, he was a different coach in many ways. yes they all failed, as most do, but most college coaches are different in the nba as far as persona, just a different game...even the failed coaches get more chances, hell look at kevin oneil and there are many many more.

if the owner of the bobcats is serious about building a team, then penny pinching isn't the way to do it.

[gomitch]

I'm already tired of losing to the likes of Vandy and Fla - I'll be REALLY tired of it this time next year.

If Tubby doesn't leave this year, there will be a lot less UK fans singing his praises after next season, imho.

[NotFrank]

I agree on the penny pinching. He stated as his goal was to be a profitable franchise. As a season ticket holder, I want his stated goal to be winning championships. He says if they are profitable, they will win championships. I think his logic is flawed...then again I'm working today and he's probably vacationing in the Caribbean on his own island.

[Will Lavender]

NotFrank wrote: Buddah wrote: guys compare and contrast the personas of college coaches and when they went into the NBA, they change, they are more restrained. look at rick, coach cal, floyd, all of them were different as far as being outlandish in college but reserved in the NBA as far as their demeanor.


Rick was far from reserved in the NBA. These coaches all have one thing in common in the NBA: They all failed miserably. Add Lon Fruger to that list and Mike Montgomery. It baffled me as to why NBA owners/GMs hire college coaches to coach the pro game (usually money.) There's a reason that these guys fail at it. I'm indifferent to Tubby staying/going, but IMO he will fail as an NBA head coach. I don't want him or any other college coach in Charlotte. Since Johnson is cheap, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he went the college route.
I agree.

I think it'd be interesting to see a list of all the college coaches in, say, the last 20 years who have jumped to the NBA and the record of those coaches. Probably wouldn't be a pretty picture.

What you would have to incorporate there, though, would be what kinds of jobs these coaches normally take. They normally, because of financial issues, take over struggling teams. That undoubtedly has something to do with the rate of failure.

I wonder if there's been a college coach in the last ten years who has taken over a good basketball team? Pitino might be the closest, but it wasn't like Boston was on top of the world when he got there.

[RCS]

True but they went to the playoffs for 3 straight years after he left so that does not look good for him. Plus he was the GM so that one pretty much falls on him.

You are right though about most of them taking over bad jobs. It certainly doesn't help.

[Buddah]

alot of times though you have to remember that pro teams in both sports basketball and football, hire guys usually from the big & old money schools in college, where players would flock to, that doesn't mean that they are the best coaches, just at the right schools and yes that goes for anybody.. The NBA and NFL never think outside the box when going to college to find coaches, sometimes the best coaches don't always coach at the top tier schools, or ones that do better in the NBA or NFL.

[RCS]

Tim Floyd was pretty outside the box and that was a disaster. Of course any coach would have looked bad with those Bulls teams. They were terrible.

[NotFrank]

RCS wrote: Tim Floyd was pretty outside the box and that was a disaster. Of course any coach would have looked bad with those Bulls teams. They were terrible.
He then went to the Hornets, who were awful with him, greatly improved without him.

[Buddah]

RCS wrote:
Tim Floyd was pretty outside the box and that was a disaster. Of course any coach would have looked bad with those Bulls teams. They were terrible.

not really, just a fishing buddy of jerry krause or that other jerry. after the phil jackson thing, they wanted someone who would bend over and do as he was told, tim just so happened to be that guy, had nothing to do with being outside the box or anything else, just being a best friend to an NBA owner.

[Terry L. Wildcat]

RP_McMurphy wrote: Would Charlotte deserve thank you notes or sympathy notes?
:rolleyes:

[Mr. Peanut]

Terry L. Wildcat wrote: RP_McMurphy wrote: Would Charlotte deserve thank you notes or sympathy notes?
:rolleyes:
Hey RP, if Tubby goes to Charlotte you going to start predicting them for the NIT too?

[ukwebfan]

You think the Bobcats might want a top 10 coach in America? You think?

Keep dreaming bashers.:lol:

[BigBlue75]

I don't want Tubby to leave nor do I see him leaving. When and if he announces that he is leaving, I'll be concerned abou it then. Further, I don't believe for one second that the majority of Wildcat fans want him to leave, either.

[Aike]

Pitino did fairly well going from Providence to the Knicks. It was one of his assistants at both UK and Boston (O'Brien) who succeeded after he left the Cs. Pitino's biggest problems in Boston were that his best player didn't like him, and he had too much of an itchy trigger finger as a GM.

College coaches can do just fine in the NBA if they have enough talent. Larry Brown is obviously the best example of someone who has had crossover success. But what is he doing now that he has a mess of a team?

The NBA has about a three-tier system when it comes to hiring coaches. There are those coaches who are handed crappy teams and are not expected to win. Second, there are coaches who are handed decent rosters, and expected to build them into playoff caliber teams. Third, there are the guys who are believed to be capable of getting teams over the hump and into championship contention.

By the time teams reach door number three, they are looking for experienced NBA veterans, not college coaches. College coaches will usually get jobs in category one, or category two at best, leaving them with little chance of sustained greatness.

RCS wrote: True but they went to the playoffs for 3 straight years after he left so that does not look good for him. Plus he was the GM so that one pretty much falls on him.

You are right though about most of them taking over bad jobs. It certainly doesn't help.

[Will Lavender]

Brown though has roots in professional basketball, Aike.

In my study (which will never be done, because I'm too lazy), I would look only at coaches who started out in college and then went pro.

I'd say these guys' success rate is horrendouly low. Abysmal, even.

[RP_McMurphy]

Tubby will find a way to get his team there if he could.

Mr. Peanut wrote:
Terry L. Wildcat wrote: RP_McMurphy wrote: Would Charlotte deserve thank you notes or sympathy notes?
:rolleyes:
Hey RP, if Tubby goes to Charlotte you going to start predicting them for the NIT too?

[kyrgaines]

As far as Pitino, I think his worst enemy is his ego. I think it is what caused him so much trouble in Boston. In the NBA, when a coach gives a multi-million dollar player the impression that he is mightier than they are, what do you think that player will do? As far as Tubby, I think the NBA is in his plans but am not convinced it will be solely to coach a team. He may opt for a spot where the spotlight is burned out. I think the press and fans will eventually wear on him here and if so, a coaching job in the NBA is not the solution IMO.

[WWH Mustaine]

Based on how he's gotten along with the most talented players he's coached at UK, I'm thinking Tubby wouldn't really have a whole lot of fun coaching an NBA team.

[audacious1]

RP_McMurphy wrote: Tubby will find a way to get his team there if he could.

Mr. Peanut wrote:
Terry L. Wildcat wrote: RP_McMurphy wrote: Would Charlotte deserve thank you notes or sympathy notes?
:rolleyes:
Hey RP, if Tubby goes to Charlotte you going to start predicting them for the NIT too?

Don't you ever get tired of hating?

[Wildcat Larry]

RP_McMurphy wrote: Tubby will find a way to get his team there if he could.

Mr. Peanut wrote:
Terry L. Wildcat wrote: RP_McMurphy wrote: Would Charlotte deserve thank you notes or sympathy notes?
:rolleyes:
Hey RP, if Tubby goes to Charlotte you going to start predicting them for the NIT too?

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[Aike]

Fair enough. In reality, a college coach becoming a successful NBA coach is probably a statistical outlier.

Will Lavender wrote: Brown though has roots in professional basketball, Aike.

In my study (which will never be done, because I'm too lazy), I would look only at coaches who started out in college and then went pro.

I'd say these guys' success rate is horrendouly low. Abysmal, even.

[NotFrank]

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For the love of freaking god, give it up. We get your freaking point...you hate Tubby. Get another hobby. Didn't you just buy a house? Go mow the freaking lawn...your act has been old for about ever. I appreciate your service, as do many others, but you don't get a free pass. Go get a hug...or a forearm shiver. Please stop beating the friggin horse...

[poodoo]

He's a great in game adjustment coach, a good x an o coach, and a horrible communicator (closer, media, charisma.) He is not a below average recruiter, he is average. QUOTE by NotFrank

___________

Very fair assessment, in my opinion, NotFrank. Too, like you, I would love to see Tubby "yank" that star player for a bad shot, or give him the "stare," or whatever. I'm sure it would go over really well. :ggrin: