Scientology - Silent Birth

[PsychoCat]

We needed some new topics.....so how do you feel about a silent birth lol.......I wonder if gentle muttering of swear words is acceptable?.......if I was Katie I think I'd be hoping for a c-section :?maybeshe needsto ask Anguson his take of the situation and getsome advice ;)

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Katie Holmes, she says, "has never felt better," a healthy state we hope continues postpartum, or else she's going to be up to her ears in vitamins and personal trainers.
The big question: Will Katie (or Kate, as Tom prefers to call her) opt for the silent treatment in the delivery room? The New York Daily News wonders whether the couple will engage in the Scientology-suggested "silent birth," which discourages any unnecessary noises, like, say, labor pain screams.
"Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save the sanity of the mother and the child and safeguard the home to which they will go," wrote Hubbard in "Dianetics." Or, as Scientologist John Travolta (http://entertainment.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=38028) explained it before wife Kelly Preston (http://entertainment.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=284432) gave birth to their daughter, Ella, in 2000, the quiet is to ensure "there's nothing recorded in the child's mind that shouldn't be there while there's pain going on. Any people saying any kind of negative verbiage may adversely affect the baby later on."
In other words, no "glib" remarks from medical staff will be permitted, although some gentle moaning from the mom is apparently allowed. The paper says Scientology also promotes a weeklong period of noiselessness following the birth to ensure the little nipper's first days are "trauma-free."

http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossipb2 (http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossipb2)

[ukbob]

I think Katie and Tom should have your username.

[MudCat]

ukbob wrote: I think Katie and Tom should have your username.
Amen. Believe it or not, there's actually a website about the strange one:

www.tomcruiseisnuts.com (http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com)

[capcat]

I don't know, Kristen...this actually doesn't sound too bad to me. If the mom needs to make loud screaming sounds ;), then okay, but birth has to be quite a sensory shock to a newborn who has been used to warmth, dark and the rhythmic sounds ofa heart pumping blood inside the mother's body. I don'tthink I would advocate total silence the week afterwards, buta calm environment might help a newborn adjust better to new surroundings.As long as it wasbalanced with the need to stimulate the nervous system somewhat, I don't think it would be a bad thing. But then, I don't like noise much either.

[trublu]

Here's my equation:

enough of the right drug during labor=silent birth

[wildcatchick]

Ditto that. I never felt a thing with my great epidural.

[CoquieKat]

I bet most of us had screaming mothers in labor, and I don't see any psychological damage due to it. Maybe Tom should give birth to the baby if he thinks it's so easy for the mother to stay silent during labor...

[WildcatDan]

I was born in a car and delivered by my grandmother so my mother had NO drugs - I am pretty sure she was not perfectly quiet during the birth. Depending on who you ask, some would tell you that I turned out just fine. ;)

[capcat]

My kids were all born pretty quickly, no time for drugs but I hadn't planned on it anyway. No screaming,and althoughI did bite the nurse's arm, shedidn't scream either ;).

[PsychoCat]

After 18 hours of hard labor with my first one I was to tired to scream lol....I think Scott heard a few swear words though and had no circulation left in his arm but oh well it was all his fault wasnt it?;) ...... biting sounds like a reasonable alternative to screaming Judy.......I'm wondering ifTom &Katie's baby will be allowed to scream?

[capcat]

Yes, all I needed was a chew toy :D.

[capcat]

Maybe Katie could bite Tom's arm and HE would agree not to scream.

[bleedbluelady]

Well, I would definitely be in favor of sewing Tom's mouth shut so the baby and mother wouldn't hear any noise from him.

[capcat]

spoken like a mom in transition :D. Just wait until they reach that point and we'll see how it goes!

[capcat]

Just a funny email from a friend tonight...

Your Clothes:
1st baby: You begin wearing maternity clothes (http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24%26k=maternity%20clothes) as soon as your OB/GYN confirms your pregnancy.
2nd baby: You wear your regular clothes for as long as possible.
3rd baby: Your maternity clothes ARE your regular clothes.

Preparing for the Birth:
1st baby: You practice your breathing religiously.
2nd baby: You don't bother because you remember that last time, breathing didn't do a thing.
3rd baby: You ask for an epidural in your eighth month.

The Layette:
1st baby: You pre-wash newborn's clothes, color-coordinate them, and fold them neatly in the baby's little bureau.
2nd baby: You check to make sure that the clothes are clean and discard only the ones with the darkest stains.
3rd baby: Boys can wear pink, can't they?

Worries:
1st baby: At the first sign of distress-a whimper, a frown-you pick up the baby.
2nd baby: You pick the baby up when her wails threaten to wake your firstborn.
3rd baby: You teach your three-year-old how to rewind the mechanical swing.

Pacifier:
1st baby: If the pacifier falls on the floor, you put it away until you can go home and wash and boil it.
2nd baby: When the pacifier falls on the floor, you squirt it off with some juice from the baby's bottle.
3rd baby: You wipe it off on your shirt and pop it back in.

Diapering:
1st baby: You change your baby's diapers every hour, whether they need it or not.
2nd baby: You change their diaper every two to three hours, if needed.
3rd baby: You try to change their diaper before others start to complain about the smell or you see it sagging to their knees.

Activities:
1st baby: You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics, Baby Swing, and Baby Story Hour.
2nd baby: You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics.
3rd baby: You take your infant to the supermarket and the dry cleaner.

Going Out:
1st baby: The first time you leave your baby with a sitter, you call home five times.
2nd baby: Just before you walk out the door, you remember to leave a number where you can be reached.
3rd baby: You leave instructions for the sitter to call only if she sees blood.

At Home:
1st baby: You spend a good bit of every day just gazing at the baby.
2nd baby: You spend a bit of everyday watching to be sure your older child isn't squeezing, poking, or hitting the baby.
3rd baby: You spend a little bit of every day hiding from the children.


Swallowing Coins (a favorite):
1st child: When first child swallows a coin, you rush the child to the hospital and demand x-rays.
2nd child: When second child swallows a coin, you carefully watch for the coin to pass.
3rd child: When third child swallows a coin you deduct it from his allowance!!

...this is from a very good friend...she is a wonderful pediatric nurse and devoted mother of two. She has a whacky sense of humor, which I love.

[PsychoCat]

lol so true ......I never had three....... but the first and second are about right.....IMO 2nd children are more relaxed and easy going becausethey have to be.....1st borns are generally more high need because of the way first time parents jump at their every whimper lol

[WildcatGirl]

Reading this I think I must have skipped my first child...maternity clothes?...never even heard of them during my first pregnancy (though I did buy some the second time around)...just wore sweat pants or stretchy shorts and t-shirts mostly...pack a bag to take to the hospital?...why don't they make you wear those stupid gowns anyway?...practice breathing?...I'd managed to do it this long why bother practicing now?...pick the baby up everytime it whimpered?...kid might as well learn now that life ain't all about them...lol.