Nash

[CardinalNation]

Pretty sad, when the winningest team of all time, can't close the deal against an unknown prep school. Now you're really in trouble. Tubby went to evaluate Nash. Now Nash, a 6-foot-7 forward from Queens, N.Y., is doing some evaluation, too. He said he's also considering going to Indiana and Notre Dame beginning this fall semester or playing for Georgia Tech or Wake Forest beginning in the fall of 2007. Recent days gave Nash something else to consider when Stanford offered a scholarship.
How bad has UK sunk, when they can't even land Prep School projects?:blush:

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/15002267.htm

[Blue Heaven]

That's ok. Save the schollie and bring in Patterson and Lucas. Instant contender for next year and don't you dare say otherwise. Though we know you will.:lol:

[Yuleofell]

Patterson is a forward, are you sure Tubby wants him?

[NOknee6of7]

That's ok. Save the schollie and bring in Patterson and Lucas.


Easier said than done. If Tubby can't even bring in a 3 star no name and has whiffed on every other decent recruit, what makes you think he'll get these guys? Wow, CN I didn't realize Nash was pulling the rug from underneath Tubby. LMAO!!! WHAT A JOKE!

I just want to make sure uk fans know that us Louisville fans are laughing so hard at how far their program has sunk. I have never enjoyed being a CARDS fan as much as I am right now. There's nothing like watching a rival dwindle down to a mid major. Isn't this great CN? Sometimes I feel bad for them...but very rarely. They deserve it for all the corruption in the past. KARMA BABY!!! AIN'T IT A B!TCH?!? BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

[ukgrad]

This is weak smack. How can youknock a program b/c a kidwho is coming into college at the age of 17 wants to make sure he's making the right decision? He's taking a realistic approach to the whole situation, nothing wrong w/ that. And besides, how sure are you it's now up to Nash and his family, and not Tubby and UK

"I thought he played well in front of Tubby," father Sidney Nash said yesterday. Now the Nashes must wait to find out whether Smith was sufficiently impressed to keep his promise on a scholarship.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/colleges/university_of_kentucky/14998257.htm

[ukgrad]

This is weak smack. How can youknock a program b/c a kidwho is coming into college at the age of 17 wants to make sure he's making the right decision? He's taking a realistic approach to the whole situation, nothing wrong w/ that. And besides, how sure are you it's now up to Nash and his family, and not Tubby and UK

"I thought he played well in front of Tubby," father Sidney Nash said yesterday. Now the Nashes must wait to find out whether Smith was sufficiently impressed to keep his promise on a scholarship.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/colleges/university_of_kentucky/14998257.htm

[ukgrad]

This is weak smack. How can youknock a program b/c a kidwho is coming into college at the age of 17 wants to make sure he's making the right decision? He's taking a realistic approach to the whole situation, nothing wrong w/ that. And besides, how sure are you it's now up to Nash and his family, and not Tubby and UK

"I thought he played well in front of Tubby," father Sidney Nash said yesterday. Now the Nashes must wait to find out whether Smith was sufficiently impressed to keep his promise on a scholarship.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/colleges/university_of_kentucky/14998257.htm

[KWICD]

When is UL going to raise its basketball level to be where UK has sunk to?

[CardinalNation]

KWICD wrote: When is UL going to raise its basketball level to be where UK has sunk to?
Not sure what that means. If you mean when is UofL going to get where UK has been, well, we don't buy championships. If you're asking when are we going to get to where you are RIGHT NOW, I hope the answer is never. You are losing your fan base, you have lost your prestige, the name "Kentucky" just isn't important anymore. Tubby is a poor recruiter, and everyone knows it. When is the last time you read an article, like this, about Tubby?

Pitino sinks recruiting roots ever deeper into New York
(http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060711/SPORTS02/607110414/1002/SPORTS)

[TrueblueCATfan]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: When is UL going to raise its basketball level to be where UK has sunk to?
Not sure what that means. If you mean when is UofL going to get where UK has been, well, we don't buy championships. If you're asking when are we going to get to where you are RIGHT NOW, I hope the answer is never. You are losing your fan base, you have lost your prestige, the name "Kentucky" just isn't important anymore. Tubby is a poor recruiter, and everyone knows it. When is the last time you read an article, like this, about Tubby?

Pitino sinks recruiting roots ever deeper into New York
(http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060711/SPORTS02/607110414/1002/SPORTS)
so far his roots have not panned out well.......Dean..did not get drafted....Garcia riding the pine........Tello....has not made an impact............and we all know what happened with Telfair.....................next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CardinalNation]

TrueblueCATfan wrote: so far his roots have not panned out well.......Dean..did not get drafted....Garcia riding the pine........Tello....has not made an impact............and we all know what happened with Telfair.....................next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those three that play at UofL at least got to play in the Final Four. Give me a list of Tubby's recruits, that played in the Final Four.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/01AD96143.gif

[Blue Heaven]

No Tuuby recruits have. But thery have been to 3 elite 8's and outside of your gimme run to Final 4 two yrs. ago, you cant even come close to that. Like I've said before, 2 NIT berths in NITinos short tenure is NOT what UL fans wanted. He is NO WAY near the same coach he was at UK. I don't know if it was Minardis death, age or what but he has lost something. I can't put my finger on it so maybe someone else can help me out. And by the way, IT"S FREAKIN' HILARIOUS!!!!!!

[CardinalNation]

Blue Heaven wrote: No Tuuby recruits have. But thery have been to 3 elite 8's and outside of your gimme run to Final 4 two yrs. ago, you cant even come close to that. Like I've said before, 2 NIT berths in NITinos short tenure is NOT what UL fans wanted. He is NO WAY near the same coach he was at UK. I don't know if it was Minardis death, age or what but he has lost something. I can't put my finger on it so maybe someone else can help me out. And by the way, IT"S FREAKIN' HILARIOUS!!!!!!
I can hear Coach Tubby talking to recruits now: "Son, we want you to come to the University of Kentucky. I've only been there nine years or so, and I want you to be the first player that I recruit, that plays in the Final Four?"
Very Impressive
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/01E214116.gif

[KWICD]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: When is UL going to raise its basketball level to be where UK has sunk to?
Not sure what that means. If you mean when is UofL going to get where UK has been, well, we don't buy championships. If you're asking when are we going to get to where you are RIGHT NOW, I hope the answer is never. You are losing your fan base, you have lost your prestige, the name "Kentucky" just isn't important anymore. Tubby is a poor recruiter, and everyone knows it. When is the last time you read an article, like this, about Tubby?

Pitino sinks recruiting roots ever deeper into New York
(http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060711/SPORTS02/607110414/1002/SPORTS)My point is that UL is no where near as good of a program right now as bad as you wanna believe. Look at the results on the court the last 2 years. Buy championships. Like Nate Johnson and Samaki Walker. Oh wait you could win with them. As far as losing the fan base. All teams have fair weather fans. UK has more fans, so it makes sense that they have more fair weather fans. Tubby is such a poor recruiter that 2 years ago he had the number 1 class.

[CardinalNation]

Look at the results on the court the last 2 years. Buy championships.
One final four.

KWICD wrote:
Tubby is such a poor recruiter that 2 years ago he had the number 1 class.

I wouldn't have even brought that up, if I were you.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/1286B2119.gif

[KWICD]

Yeah I know. It puts a big hole in your so called smack.

[Radiated]

Pitino's recruiting pitch:

Son, we might make a final four, maybe if we get lucky enough to make it to the big dance. But, I can guarantee you that making the NIT twice in 5 years is better than making the big dance every year.

[CardinalNation]

KWICD wrote: Yeah I know. It puts a big hole in your so called smack.

I don't even know where to begin. Let's start here. The #1 class in America? How many of those players have tried to leave Tubby's Wildcats? That's something that I'm sure today's recruits are reminded of. #2-How many Final Fours have these players played in? Zero! That's something else I'm sure that today's recruits are reminded of. Do you really wonder why you are having trouble signing Prep School Players? Get your head out of the sand.

[CardinalNation]

Radiated wrote: Pitino's recruiting pitch:

Son, we might make a final four, maybe if we get lucky enough to make it to the big dance. But, I can guarantee you that making the NIT twice in 5 years is better than making the big dance every year.



Surely, even UK fans, can see that our recruiting is leaps and bounds ahead of Tubby's.

[catfan02]

Too bad you've lost to a "down" UK the past 2 seasons. Man , that must really suck for you!! Imagine what will happen now that Tubby is really gettin after it!!:tongue

[chworld22]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: Yeah I know. It puts a big hole in your so called smack.

I don't even know where to begin. Let's start here. The #1 class in America? How many of those players have tried to leave Tubby's Wildcats? That's something that I'm sure today's recruits are reminded of. #2-How many Final Fours have these players played in? Zero! That's something else I'm sure that today's recruits are reminded of. Do you really wonder why you are having trouble signing Prep School Players? Get your head out of the sand.Howe many NCAA championships have Slick Ricks UL recruits seen let alone win? How many players recruited by Tubby have won a NCAA championship?

[NOknee6of7]

This is weak smack. How can youknock a program b/c a kidwho is coming into college at the age of 17 wants to make sure he's making the right decision? He's taking a realistic approach to the whole situation, nothing wrong w/ that. And besides, how sure are you it's now up to Nash and his family, and not Tubby and UK



Spin city. What happened to "kids line up to play at uk"??? Where did THAT go? Better start diggin into the 2 star recruits Tubster.



outside of your gimme run to Final 4 two yrs. ago,



Yeah, playing the RUNNER UPS from the previous season in the SECOND round is a gimmie. you wish. Fact is your road was TWICE as easy and STILL couldn't get there. What a joke. What were you??? A TWO SEED? I've never seen a team choke SO MANY 1's and 2 seed in my life. Two years ago? So we went to the Final Four in 2004 as well?

[TrueblueCATfan]

CardinalNation wrote: TrueblueCATfan wrote: so far his roots have not panned out well.......Dean..did not get drafted....Garcia riding the pine........Tello....has not made an impact............and we all know what happened with Telfair.....................next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those three that play at UofL at least got to play in the Final Four. Give me a list of Tubby's recruits, that played in the Final Four.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/01AD96143.gif
and 2 have been to NIT final Four.........BAW!!!!!! and still got blown out......you can't seem to win any Final four......Boston Rick came thru the door and you are stuck with him......LOL

[CardinalNation]

chworld22 wrote: How many players recruited by Tubby have won a NCAA championship?

I believe the answer to that would be 0

[raftingdon2]

I can't wait for football season to come, this place is beginning to sound like a broken record (from both sides).

[Radiated]

CardinalNation wrote: Radiated wrote: Pitino's recruiting pitch:

Son, we might make a final four, maybe if we get lucky enough to make it to the big dance. But, I can guarantee you that making the NIT twice in 5 years is better than making the big dance every year.



Surely, even UK fans, can see that our recruiting is leaps and bounds ahead of Tubby's.


So, is it Pitino's coaching that is holding them back? They can't even make the big dance twice in 5 years.

[NOknee6of7]

So, is it Pitino's (#) coaching that is holding them back? They can't even make the big dance twice in 5 years.



As the above poster stated, how many times do we have to go over this??? Pitino lost 3 of his best recruits ever to the pros, and STILL managed to make the Final Four. We don't have to worry about that anymore. Those players won't have us on pins and needles. This is going to be FUN!!!!

[KWICD]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: Yeah I know. It puts a big hole in your so called smack.

I don't even know where to begin. Let's start here. The #1 class in America? How many of those players have tried to leave Tubby's Wildcats? That's something that I'm sure today's recruits are reminded of. #2-How many Final Fours have these players played in? Zero! That's something else I'm sure that today's recruits are reminded of. Do you really wonder why you are having trouble signing Prep School Players? Get your head out of the sand.
I do believe this was about recruiting. Not players leaving, not final fours. It is a totally seperate part of coaching. Nice try. Stay focused.

[CardinalNation]

KWICD wrote: CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: Yeah I know. It puts a big hole in your so called smack.

I don't even know where to begin. Let's start here. The #1 class in America? How many of those players have tried to leave Tubby's Wildcats? That's something that I'm sure today's recruits are reminded of. #2-How many Final Fours have these players played in? Zero! That's something else I'm sure that today's recruits are reminded of. Do you really wonder why you are having trouble signing Prep School Players? Get your head out of the sand.
I do believe this was about recruiting. Not players leaving, not final fours. It is a totally seperate part of coaching. Nice try. Stay focused.Players leaving, Final Fours, etc., it all plays into recruiting. You don't see that?

[TrueblueCATfan]

NOknee6of7 wrote: So, is it Pitino's (#) coaching that is holding them back? They can't even make the big dance twice in 5 years.



As the above poster stated, how many times do we have to go over this??? Pitino lost 3 of his best recruits ever to the pros, and STILL managed to make the Final Four. We don't have to worry about that anymore. Those players won't have us on pins and needles. This is going to be FUN!!!!

excuses.....excuses......that is all you people know

[KWICD]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: Yeah I know. It puts a big hole in your so called smack.

I don't even know where to begin. Let's start here. The #1 class in America? How many of those players have tried to leave Tubby's Wildcats? That's something that I'm sure today's recruits are reminded of. #2-How many Final Fours have these players played in? Zero! That's something else I'm sure that today's recruits are reminded of. Do you really wonder why you are having trouble signing Prep School Players? Get your head out of the sand.
I do believe this was about recruiting. Not players leaving, not final fours. It is a totally seperate part of coaching. Nice try. Stay focused.Players leaving, Final Fours, etc., it all plays into recruiting. You don't see that?
Then how did UCONN build a program? Recruiting has more to do with personality. Look at your hero Pitino. Average coach, runs off countless players, lies through his teeth, but gets good recruits. It is his Charisma. If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.

[CardinalNation]

KWICD wrote: If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.

I'm sure that the final fours that Kentucky played in, when these recruits were 7 or 8 years old, are very impressive.:lol:

[NOknee6of7]

Then how did UCONN build a program? Recruiting has more to do with personality. Look at your hero Pitino. Average coach, runs off countless players, lies through his teeth, but gets good recruits. It is his Charisma. If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.



Uh, yeah nice observation there, but I tend to believe it has more to do with that he is the ONLY coach in basketball HISTORY to take THREE different teams to a Final Four. That and the fact that he has produced 10 X's the pro players that Tubby has. Sorry to destroy your argument in front of the board, but it was obvious you were speaking from your rear, rather than your brain....and it wasn't going to fly here.

[TrueblueCATfan]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.

I'm sure that the final fours that Kentucky played in, when these recruits were 7 or 8 years old, are very impressive.:lol:
at least we won when we played in them;);););););)

[CardinalNation]

TrueblueCATfan wrote: CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.

I'm sure that the final fours that Kentucky played in, when these recruits were 7 or 8 years old, are very impressive.:lol:
at least we won when we played in them;);););););)
Yeah, with Coach Pitino's players. I'm sure he reminds the UofL recruits of that every day. Thanks!

[KWICD]

NOknee6of7 wrote: Then how did UCONN build a program? Recruiting has more to do with personality. Look at your hero Pitino. Average coach, runs off countless players, lies through his teeth, but gets good recruits. It is his Charisma. If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.



Uh, yeah nice observation there, but I tend to believe it has more to do with that he is the ONLY coach in basketball HISTORY to take THREE different teams to a Final Four. That and the fact that he has produced 10 X's the pro players that Tubby has. Sorry to destroy your argument in front of the board, but it was obvious you were speaking from your rear, rather than your brain....and it wasn't going to fly here.
Please you didn't destroy anything. Typical UL stuff. "Because we say something that makes it great. Lets pat each other on the back." This just in Gonzaga never went to the final four and yet built a program. Wow George Mason just made it. When was Providence getting all those banners before Pitino got there. How long was it between final fours for UL 19-20 years. Yeah that is how it is done by Final Fours and not running people off. It is to bad my rear is better at this than your mouth and hands.

[KWICD]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.

I'm sure that the final fours that Kentucky played in, when these recruits were 7 or 8 years old, are very impressive.:lol:
UL were not even born yet.

[CardinalNation]

KWICD wrote: CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.

I'm sure that the final fours that Kentucky played in, when these recruits were 7 or 8 years old, are very impressive.:lol:
UL were not even born yet.
UofL recruits were not alive in 2005?:shrug:

[KWICD]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: If it was about final fours. Kentucky never would miss on a recruit except for UNC or Duke or UCLA.

I'm sure that the final fours that Kentucky played in, when these recruits were 7 or 8 years old, are very impressive.:lol:
UL were not even born yet.
UofL recruits were not alive in 2005?:shrug:
the ones who played some of them were not.

[NOknee6of7]

Typical UL stuff. "Because we say something that makes it great.


Now you are learning! Good job.:thumbup I wouldn't be talking about Final Four droughts if I were you. It is you, not us, that is currently in their longest skid. What's better, 1 Final Four in 19 years, or 0 in 9? You may even beat our record if Tubster sticks around.....and we UofL fans pray to God he does.

[CardinalNation]

KWICD wrote: CardinalNation wrote: UofL recruits were not alive in 2005?:shrug:
the ones who played some of them were not.
Interpretation Anyone??

[KWICD]

CardinalNation wrote: KWICD wrote: CardinalNation wrote: UofL recruits were not alive in 2005?:shrug:
the ones who played some of them were not.
Interpretation Anyone??
I am not going to say it is crystal clear, but you know what I meant.

[chworld22]

CardinalNation wrote: chworld22 wrote: How many players recruited by Tubby have won a NCAA championship?

I believe the answer to that would be 0At least one Saul Smith was a Freshman in 98 and played on that team so you can stop using that one liner since it is untrue.

[CardinalNation]

chworld22 wrote: At least one Saul Smith was a Freshman in 98 and played on that team so you can stop using that one liner since it is untrue.

I said recruited. What other teams recruited Saul Smith!:lol:

[chworld22]

CardinalNation wrote: chworld22 wrote: At least one Saul Smith was a Freshman in 98 and played on that team so you can stop using that one liner since it is untrue.

I said recruited. What other teams recruited Saul Smith!:lol:
Doesnt matter he was a scholarship athlete on that team that was brought in by Tubby who played a lot in his first year. There were other schools who wanted him but they knew he was going to UK when his dad got the job. I am sure he wasn't the only freshman on that team that year.

[CardinalNation]

chworld22 wrote: There were other schools who wanted him
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/120104124.gif

[chworld22]

CardinalNation wrote: chworld22 wrote: There were other schools who wanted him
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/120104124.gifThink what you want but that guy was a good guard not great but he was good and he had game.

[TrueblueCATfan]

CardinalNation wrote: chworld22 wrote: There were other schools who wanted him
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/120104124.gifSaul Smith was a class act...I would rather have him on my team than any you have..at least he knows how to speak to the media

[CardinalNation]

TrueblueCATfan wrote: CardinalNation wrote: chworld22 wrote: There were other schools who wanted him
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/120104124.gifSaul Smith was a class act...I would rather have him on my team than any you have..at least he knows how to speak to the media
Is this the same Saul Smith who crashed Daddy's car into the light pole, and left the scene of an accident? He didn't want to talk to the media that night.

[TrueblueCATfan]

CardinalNation wrote: TrueblueCATfan wrote: CardinalNation wrote: chworld22 wrote: There were other schools who wanted him
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/120104124.gifSaul Smith was a class act...I would rather have him on my team than any you have..at least he knows how to speak to the media
Is this the same Saul Smith who crashed Daddy's car into the light pole, and left the scene of an accident? He didn't want to talk to the media that night.
nothing to tell the media................like I said when He DID talk to the media at least he could speak to them.........

[CardinalNation]

Getting back on topic, Nash. Here's an intresting article from FoxSports about Nash, and the shape of the UK program.
Believe it or not, Nash is leaning toward turning Smith and the Wildcats program down in favor of a prep year. The former Lawrence Woodmere (N.Y.) star realizes the instability of the Kentucky program these days.
"It's not that a degree from Kentucky isn't good, but other schools such as Stanford and Georgetown have a better academic reputation."
LINK (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/5781390)

[Radiated]

CardinalNation wrote: Getting back on topic, Nash. Here's an intresting article from FoxSports about Nash, and the shape of the UK program.
Believe it or not, Nash is leaning toward turning Smith and the Wildcats program down in favor of a prep year. The former Lawrence Woodmere (N.Y.) star realizes the instability of the Kentucky program these days.
"It's not that a degree from Kentucky isn't good, but other schools such as Stanford and Georgetown have a better academic reputation."
LINK (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/5781390)

From the same article, not sure if you caught it.

Former Louisville forward Chad Millard took a visit to Northeastern recently. He's also considering Vanderbilt, Creighton and Southern Illinois. ... With the sneaker camps behind us, here's something to consider: NBA star Dwyane Wade wasn't even invited to any of the sneaker camps back in his high school days. ...

[CardinalNation]

I've often said, you never know what a recruit will do. I've seen high school stars flop in college, and vice versa. I've seen college stars flop in the pros, and players you never heard of, become stars.