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freethrow
07-10-2006, 09:35 PM
Chuck had 10 points on 4-5 from the floor and 2-2 from the line and an impressive 19 rebounds today. You go Chuck.
http://www.vegassummerleague.com/box_score.cfm?game=70

Doug Hardin
07-11-2006, 10:21 AM
19 boards? That's impressive, even if it was just a summer league game.

One of my friends and I have a theory: There are guys that can rebound, and guys that can't rebound, it's not all related to size or athleticism, and you can't go from a "guy that can't rebound" to a "guy that can rebound." Chuck Hayes is a great rebounder.

I. Melvin
07-11-2006, 03:51 PM
I'd agree that great shooting is an unteachable gift, but rebounding? Maybe ...

Will Lavender
07-11-2006, 04:00 PM
I. Melvin wrote: I'd agree that great shooting is an unteachable gift, but rebounding? Maybe ...


I think rebounding may be more teachable than shooting. I've seen guys who were just pathetic shooters start playing every day, and in a year or two they're able to knock down open shots with consistency. I agree that great shooters are born, not made, but I really believe that just playing the game a lot can turn one into a pretty good shooter.

If you add strength and quickness, you can obvioysly become a better rebounder. But I sort of agree with Doug: rebounders like Chuck are born. Rebounding is about angles more than anything. Recognizing the trajectory of the ball and positioning yourself in a spot to get it. Chuck was one of the best I've see at UK at reading those angles. (Jared *****ett was another master at this art.)

RCS
07-11-2006, 04:52 PM
Great rebounders are born, but lots of good rebounders are taught. There are a select few guys that just know how to rebound. They are athletic enough but not overly gifted, ie Rodman, Ben Wallace, Popeye Jones, Hayes, etc. I don't think Shaq is particularly gifted as a rebounder, he is just big and near the rim a lot so he isa good rebounder. I think Morris can be a good rebounder too but he will never be a great rebounder. The same for shooters. It is both a talent and a learned skill. Lots of people can practice enough to be good golfers but very few are good enough to be a top golfers and those guys are just born with more talent. Really there are lots of things like this. Pool, golf, shooting, etc. Skills that can be learned but only a select few can master.

m0fats
07-12-2006, 03:18 PM
Looks like chuck only got 10 boards.. they just entered a 19 by accident, 4 offensive, 6 defensive. still a good showing.