Ty Profitt report on pick-up game with Cats

[trublue4life]

Alan Cutler tonight on WLAP read a report from Ty Profitt, a 6'4" guard and potential prospect from E'town (I think?) abotu playing over the weekend with next year's team. He gave a very detailed report on each player and his impressions. I tried to find the story but could not. If anyone can find the link - Cutler said it was from scout.com - and post it here it was the best info yet on how the team looks over the summer. It was really an awesome report and just what the doctor ordered for the mid-summer lull. If it can't be posted or linked here Ill try to recap the things I can remember. Really interesting stuff.

[trublue4life]

I found the report. It's on the forum page at scout. I did not copy and paste it here because I didn't know if that was allowed or not. It was just as Cutler read it on the radio and certainly worth the time to read.

[jrodw8]

Second time i have heard someone compare Porter to Hinrech.Hope to hear it alot more wouldnt mind that comparison at all.



and this is sorta interesting too

"i asked a few guys on the team what happened last season and everyone of them said the same thing. They all said "it was rondo's team and if it wasn't, he'd cry and moan until it was again". "

[SamKat]

I'd like to see the comments about summer scrimmages.

Sam

[BIGBLUEFAN4LIFE]

I have the article, but I don't know if I can post it...I'll be glad to ifI can, it's a very good read.

[rickdacatkilla]

wow, wasn'tHinrech a Mcdonalds all american?

[flacat22]

rickdacatkilla wrote: wow, wasn'tHinrech a Mcdonalds all american?

no, he wasnt.

"When you talk about Kirk, you talk about coachability," Williams said. "When he came out of high school, he was not a McDonald's High School All-American, and I think now he's the best college guard in basketball."

http://www.kusports.com/news/mensbball_archive/story/104911

[Doug Hardin]

jrodw8 wrote: Second time i have heard someone compare Porter to Hinrech.Hope to hear it alot more wouldnt mind that comparison at all.

He's a white PG, so he's inevitably going to be compared to Kirk Hinrich and Luke Ridnour. Hinrich is a little bigger (6'3", 190 lbs) than Porter (6'1", 170 lbs.), but I've never seenPorter play,so I have no idea how similar their games are. Based on the few pick-up game reports though, I've heard a lot of things like, "He's better than the 2-star ranking," or "He's better than I expected."

[Wildcat Larry]

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[RCS]

http://mb29.scout.com/fkentuckywildcatsfrm3.showMessage?topicID=27126.to pic

here is a link to the post on scouts. It is pretty good stuff. I like that Stevenson is all over the place. A high energy guy that is constantly battling for rebounds and loose balls and plays solid D and blocks shots will add a ton to this team. I know he is too skinny, etc. but I still think he can contribute. We lacked athleticism and length in the worst way last year, and Stevenson is definitely both.

The more I hear about Porter, the more I like. He apparently can fill it up from deep but is athletic enough to play good D.

[RCS]

I didn't see your post Larry until I posted that, but I think in this circumstance it is worth leaving. There is good info and I am certainly not try to draw people over to scout. If you want to take it down feel free.

[freethrow]

It is sounding like we finally may have a good shooting team? Of course, Carrier was a great shooter in practice. I have the feeling though that this group will give us alot to smile about.

There is a post on another board from someone who was at a pickup game yesterday that had many of the same impressions. However, he was more impressed with Woo than Carter. Mainly because of the pace of the game though?
Carter was always slow. He was very impressed with Stevenson even though he is very thin. And he had good things to say about each of the other new guy's. Said Porter was a very hard worker and shoots very well.

It seems the guy's are working hard and are already in very good shape. Said that Morris seemed smaller and had maybe lost weight? Bradley seemed quicker.


RCS wrote: http://mb29.scout.com/fkentuckywildcatsfrm3.showMessage?topicID=27126.to pic

here is a link to the post on scouts. It is pretty good stuff. I like that Stevenson is all over the place. A high energy guy that is constantly battling for rebounds and loose balls and plays solid D and blocks shots will add a ton to this team. I know he is too skinny, etc. but I still think he can contribute. We lacked athleticism and length in the worst way last year, and Stevenson is definitely both.

The more I hear about Porter, the more I like. He apparently can fill it up from deep but is athletic enough to play good D.

[ukgrad]

I may sound ignorant when i ask this question, but who is Ty Profitt? I picked up that he plays hs ball in ky, but where?

[trublue4life]

ukgrad wrote: I may sound ignorant when i ask this question, but who is Ty Profitt? I picked up that he plays hs ball in ky, but where?

He is still in high school, I think in E'town but could be mistaken. I was almost sure it was E'town until I saw another poster on another site who alluded to Corbin/London area. He's 6'4" wing player who is unabashed UK fan. I think he's in class of 08' which means he's a junior next season. Again not sure.

Boy, aren't you glad I cleared all that up:shrug:I'm sure there are others who know more about Ty who will come tomy rescue.

[Will Lavender]

Heck of a report. The kid apologized at the end for his typing, but I thought he did a magnificent job. Really interesting tidbit there on Rondo.

Proffitt is out of South Laurel. Really scrappy, heady player. I watched him play against OJ Mayo's North College Hill last year, and he had a tremendous second half, keeping Laurel in the game until the last couple of minutes.

[Kentucky Jim]

That is a very interesting report. I had a feeling that Morris was going to show fire and be a dominant player, after reading this report I'm hopeful he's on the right track. The man will be on a mission next season.

As for the Rondo blurb, perhaps he was just trying to be the leader of the team. That should have been Sparks role but he didn't seem to want it. Chuck was obviously the leader when the Rondo/Morris class came in and that was a void last year, it's been beat to death around here so I won't bother with it any longer.

I really enjoyed the reviews on the freshman class.

[Doug Hardin]

Kentucky Jim wrote: Chuck was obviously the leader when the Rondo/Morris class came in and that was a void last year, it's been beat to death around here so I won't bother with it any longer.

Based on this report, it sounds like they might be in good hands in the leadership department with Morris and Perry.

[flacat22]

good report but i got REAL confused when he was talking about "Perry" and putback dunks then I realized he was talking about Stevenson NOT Bobby...

[RCS]

I did the same thing;) I was thinking, if Bobby Perry can throw down put back dunks in practice why can't he every score inside in real games? Then I realized he meant Stevenson and it all made a little more sense.

[VIIBanners]

I like that Morris is beating up Woo and making fun of him. I love Woo, but he does need to stop acting like a...

[Coldstream]

RCS wrote: http://mb29.scout.com/fkentuckywildcatsfrm3.showMessage?topicID=27126.to pic

here is a link to the post on scouts. It is pretty good stuff. I like that Stevenson is all over the place. A high energy guy that is constantly battling for rebounds and loose balls and plays solid D and blocks shots will add a ton to this team. I know he is too skinny, etc. but I still think he can contribute. We lacked athleticism and length in the worst way last year, and Stevenson is definitely both.

The more I hear about Porter, the more I like. He apparently can fill it up from deep but is athletic enough to play good D.

Wow. Thanks for the link RCS. As for the report, now that is an insider! :thumbup

[SunBaller]

This kid's perspective of a pick-up game is interesting. By his own admission, I'm not sure Tubby is terribly interested in him at this point, but we'll see. Could he be "star-struck"? :lol:I like what he said about Jodie Meeks. Those are the only comments that really got my attention in theentire post. It's been many years since we've had a player with that kind of constant movement like "Rip" (Sheppard???). That's the kind of play I love, but I'm not sure Tubby's style rewards that type of play, but we'll see. The '98 Team wasn't Tubby's style of play. Sheppard was a 5th year Senior in Tubby's first year.

[Will Lavender]

SunBaller wrote: This kid's perspective of a pick-up game is interesting. By his own admission, I'm not sure Tubby is terribly interested in him at this point, but we'll see. Could he be "star-struck"? :lol:I like what he said about Jodie Meeks. Those are the only comments that really got my attention in theentire post. It's been many years since we've had a player with that kind of constant movement like "Rip" (Sheppard???). That's the kind of play I love, but I'm not sure Tubby's style rewards that type of play, but we'll see. The '98 Team wasn't Tubby's style of play. Sheppard was a 5th year Senior in Tubby's first year.
Bogans and Fitch had similar, Energizer Bunny-type movement on offense. Not surprisingly, our two best years post-'98 featured those two players as our key scorers.

But you're right: Shep was the best I've seen in Tubby's system on the offensive end. Ran those curl screens to perfection.

[RCS]

I think Tubby likes the mid range jumper off screens(what Rips is known for). We ran it quite a bit last year for Perry and Bradley. Both had some success at it but not tons. I am looking forward to watching Meeks. I have heard nothing but fantastic things about this kid.

[bobbyadkins]

Profitt plays at South Laurel.

[RaleighCat]

RCS wrote: I think Tubby likes the mid range jumper off screens(what Rips is known for). We ran it quite a bit last year for Perry and Bradley. Both had some success at it but not tons. I am looking forward to watching Meeks. I have heard nothing but fantastic things about this kid.
We ran very few screens for our shooters- period. It's one of the most frustrating aspects to our offense, or lack thereof. We have to do a better job (from the clipboard down) of putting more motion into our sets.

[Will Lavender]

RaleighCat wrote: RCS wrote: I think Tubby likes the mid range jumper off screens(what Rips is known for). We ran it quite a bit last year for Perry and Bradley. Both had some success at it but not tons. I am looking forward to watching Meeks. I have heard nothing but fantastic things about this kid.
We ran very few screens for our shooters- period. It's one of the most frustrating aspects to our offense, or lack thereof. We have to do a better job (from the clipboard down) of putting more motion into our sets.
It all starts with the point guard. The motion offense, as UK runs it, is designed around a set of "reads." If the point guard isn't reading the defense correctly, the whole thing falls through. The best point guards we've had at getting in the offense and running it smoothly under Tubby have been Wayne Turner, Gerald Fitch in 2003, and (at times) Cliff Hawkins. The worst? Saul Smith* and the 2006 version of Rajon Rondo.

(*Saul was much better than many people ever gave him credit for, but he wasn't blessed with that innate, God-given point guard mentality. I'm hoping D. Jasper will turn out to be one of those types of players.)

[matt57]

by "Rip" he is referring to richard hamilton of the Pistons

[Grub]

bobbyadkins wrote: Profitt plays at South Laurel.
Bobby - Does his mother live over in the Annville area? I may be way off base on this one, but I think Ty is also related to the Elza family over there in Laurel County.

[Will Lavender]

Apparently Alan Cutler has debunked this report. Not sure why anyone would log onto a message board posing as this kid and post a fake pick-up game report, but anyway.

The Rondo thing did seem a little...tidy to me.

[Caveman Catfan]

I have been waiting for someone to ask why we assume this is legit.

[Coldstream]

Caveman Catfan wrote: I have been waiting for someone to ask why we assume this is legit.


The guy had a typroffit handle and one of the admins on the Scout.com site thanked him and asked him to stop by again. Seemed like at first that people on that site felt he was credible from past postings and I waited a day before responding. Its like those urban legend emails.. most of the time, you know which ones are fake but every now and then one of them will fool you. :?

[trublue4life]

Caveman Catfan wrote: I have been waiting for someone to ask why we assume this is legit.



I also heard Cutler state that Ty Proffit said he did not make the post and I'm sorry I ever alerted this board to it. Iassumed that Cutler had done his homework before he read the thing in it's entirety on the air. I guess I should know better. Sorry. Cutler went on to say that Ty did play pick up games with the team while he attended UK's camp last week and even confirmed that some of the stuff in the bogus post was true, whatever that means :shrug:but that he was not the person who posted it and doesn't know who did. It is pretty sorry for anyone to pose as another person on the internet. No wonder Tubbysaid the internet stuff was "full of crap."

[m0fats]

:lol::lol::lol:

[RCS]

Just to be a conspiracy theorist here. I wonder if he actually didpost itbut later realized it was not such a good idea to be sharing private info about a team that you had a desire to attend. When I read it I wonder if the team would appreciate someone writing all of that. There was nothing terrible in there or anything, but the whole Woo thing and the stuff about Rondo did not seem like a wise thing to post if you are a potential recruit, especially a marginal one. Maybe someone pointed that out to him so he back tracked and stated it was not him. No one will follow up because stuff like this happens quite often. Just a thought;)

[bobbyadkins]

Sorry, but I'm not sure where he lives exactly. I know that there is a few Profitt families in the Annville area, but I don't know them well.

[Grub]

bobbyadkins wrote: Sorry, but I'm not sure where he lives exactly. I know that there is a few Profitt families in the Annville area, but I don't know them well.



Bobby - You have a PM

[hwy44tom]

RCS is right on. Ty posted another post (his second ever!) on the KSR free board stating that it was indeed him, that he wanted it togo nowhere but the board, and was mad at Cutler for broadcasting it. He feels it took him out of the running for a chance to be a Wildcat. Guess it could still be a fake, but sure sounds too informed to be anything but legit. He's a super kid, a super bball player, and wish/hope he gets to be a Cat.

[phoenix]

hwy44tom wrote: RCS is right on. Ty posted another post (his second ever!) on the KSR free board stating that it was indeed him, that he wanted it togo nowhere but the board, and was mad at Cutler for broadcasting it. He feels it took him out of the running for a chance to be a Wildcat. Guess it could still be a fake, but sure sounds too informed to be anything but legit. He's a super kid, a super bball player, and wish/hope he gets to be a Cat.The boards are sure filled with a lot of interesting, first posts these days, and somewhat astounding how they seem to have some special insight into some team situation that has never seen the light of day before, and look at this one, a first post making an effort to confirm another first post. Geez, how long until October?

[bwright]

What about having more post than someone else makes you moreknowledgeable or believable then them?

[phoenix]

bwright wrote: What about having more post than someone else makes you moreknowledgeable or believable then them?
Interesting question, but then, who claimed it did?

:question

[WildcatLraiser]

Ty will be a senior and contender for Mr. Basketball.

[RCS]

bwright wrote: What about having more post than someone else makes you moreknowledgeable or believable then them?

A certain # of posts certainly doesn't mean you are automatically telling the truth, but you are unlikely to claim to be a high profile person for 300+ posts with out someone figuring out if it is true.

If you look at posts that end up being complete bogus, they ussually have less than 50 posts. I used to be a moderator at WCF and this was true 99% of the time. A practical joker is not going to take the time to build up a posting reputation just to get credibility.

I have been posting on the same message boards as some of these guys for nearly 10 years. I pretty much know who is full of crap at this point.

[trublue4life]

RCS wrote: bwright wrote: What about having more post than someone else makes you moreknowledgeable or believable then them?
I have been posting on the same message boards as some of these guys for nearly 10 years. I pretty much know who is full of crap at this point.

:lol:Good answer, RCS!