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nkycatsfan
07-12-2006, 08:50 PM
A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
bluegrassking
07-12-2006, 09:50 PM
Tubby can give the program a boost by either winning Championships and competing at the highest level or leaving.
These charity events are feel good nice, but have little to no impact on the court or in recruiting.
Tubby needs to worry less about the rubber chicken circuit and more about getting this team reloaded with the talent he needs to execute his antiquated system, because we all know he is not going to adapt to best utilize what he has.
trublue4life
07-12-2006, 10:04 PM
bluegrassking wrote: Tubby can give the program a boost by either winning Championships and competing at the highest level or leaving.
These charity events are feel good nice, but have little to no impact on the court or in recruiting.
Tubby needs to worry less about the rubber chicken circuit and more about getting this team reloaded with the talent he needs to execute his antiquated system, because we all know he is not going to adapt to best utilize what he has.
You should win an ESPY in the category of "Fan Perspective GoneBad." Truly sad:rolleyes:
SunBaller
07-12-2006, 11:05 PM
trublue4life wrote: bluegrassking wrote: Tubby can give the program a boost by either winning Championships and competing at the highest level or leaving.
These charity events are feel good nice, but have little to no impact on the court or in recruiting.
Tubby needs to worry less about the rubber chicken circuit and more about getting this team reloaded with the talent he needs to execute his antiquated system, because we all know he is not going to adapt to best utilize what he has.
You should win an ESPY in the category of "Fan Perspective GoneBad." Truly sad:rolleyes:
How many ESPY's do they give for that? I doubt if there's room on the ESPY stage alongside bluegrassking for all the hundreds of thousands of UK fans vying for that award. I'll take one.
blueheretic
07-13-2006, 02:13 AM
nkycatsfan wrote: A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
Charity is good but this does little to nothing for the actual program. It will provide a nice little tax break for Tubby, though.
Dep613
07-13-2006, 03:33 AM
Why make something negative out of this? :shrug:
blueheretic wrote: nkycatsfan wrote: A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
Charity is good but this does little to nothing for the actual program. It will provide a nice little tax break for Tubby, though.
blueheretic
07-13-2006, 03:40 AM
Dep613 wrote: Why make something negative out of this? :shrug:
blueheretic wrote: nkycatsfan wrote: A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
Charity is good but this does little to nothing for the actual program. It will provide a nice little tax break for Tubby, though.
How is a mere statement of fact negative? :shrug:
AugustaDan
07-13-2006, 03:50 AM
blueheretic wrote: Dep613 wrote: Why make something negative out of this? :shrug:
blueheretic wrote: nkycatsfan wrote: A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
Charity is good but this does little to nothing for the actual program. It will provide a nice little tax break for Tubby, though.
How is a mere statement of fact negative? :shrug:
If you didn't think the tone of your statement was negative, then that explains a lot about your posting style. Also, that might mean that you are tone deaf.
ukcatfan
07-13-2006, 04:05 AM
There you go blueheretic, telling the truth and causing people to get a knot in their undees.
AugustaDan
07-13-2006, 04:42 AM
bluegrassking wrote: Tubby can give the program a boost by either winning Championships and competing at the highest level or leaving.
These charity events are feel good nice, but have little to no impact on the court or in recruiting.
Tubby needs to worry less about the rubber chicken circuit and more about getting this team reloaded with the talent he needs to execute his antiquated system, because we all know he is not going to adapt to best utilize what he has.
I got the same thing out of the article. :rolleyes:
This thread is the kind of thing people can point to when they say "UK fans are ridiculous" and make fun of us.
blueheretic
07-13-2006, 04:58 AM
dxwils3 wrote: blueheretic wrote: Dep613 wrote: Why make something negative out of this? :shrug:
blueheretic wrote: nkycatsfan wrote: A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
Charity is good but this does little to nothing for the actual program. It will provide a nice little tax break for Tubby, though.
How is a mere statement of fact negative? :shrug:
If you didn't think the tone of your statement was negative, then that explains a lot about your posting style. Also, that might mean that you are tone deaf.
Perhaps it explains more about the defensive mood of the program and those who are so defensive about Tubby. Anything that is not a polly anna chorus of praise about Tubby is "negative."
I could say Tubby crossed the street to avoid that crowd and you would think I was being negative. When in fact, I made a simple statement.
Why do you people feel you need to be so defensive? According to most, Tubby's record speaks for itself. Yet, many of the Tubby Defense network feel the need to defend Tubby from all "enemies" real or imagined.
AugustaDan
07-13-2006, 05:22 AM
blueheretic wrote: dxwils3 wrote: blueheretic wrote: Dep613 wrote: Why make something negative out of this? :shrug:
blueheretic wrote: nkycatsfan wrote: A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
Charity is good but this does little to nothing for the actual program. It will provide a nice little tax break for Tubby, though.
How is a mere statement of fact negative? :shrug:
If you didn't think the tone of your statement was negative, then that explains a lot about your posting style. Also, that might mean that you are tone deaf.
Perhaps it explains more about the defensive mood of the program and those who are so defensive about Tubby. Anything that is not a polly anna chorus of praise about Tubby is "negative."
I could say Tubby crossed the street to avoid that crowd and you would think I was being negative. When in fact, I made a simple statement.
Why do you people feel you need to be so defensive? According to most, Tubby's record speaks for itself. Yet, many of the Tubby Defense network feel the need to defend Tubby from all "enemies" real or imagined.
I also made a simple statement that I believe is absolutely true. Why are you so defensive?
Your post demonstrates a lot of conviction, but I wonder if you could point out any statement I make where I'm defending Tubby. I understand that you are frustrated because you think many on here are ignoring obvious problems, but you are directing your venom the wrong way here.
The only points I make here are that your post was negative and that it's ridiculous to immediately bash Tubby's coaching in an article about charity (not referring to your post).
Someone posted an article about charity, why can't we just let this thread be about that. It's not like there are no other threads where we can "discuss" the merits of Tubby's coaching.
blueheretic
07-13-2006, 05:41 AM
dxwils3 wrote: blueheretic wrote: dxwils3 wrote: blueheretic wrote: Dep613 wrote: Why make something negative out of this? :shrug:
blueheretic wrote: nkycatsfan wrote: A good read for those that are from the Northern KY area.
http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/NEWS02/607120344/1014/NEWS02
Charity is good but this does little to nothing for the actual program. It will provide a nice little tax break for Tubby, though.
How is a mere statement of fact negative? :shrug:
If you didn't think the tone of your statement was negative, then that explains a lot about your posting style. Also, that might mean that you are tone deaf.
Perhaps it explains more about the defensive mood of the program and those who are so defensive about Tubby. Anything that is not a polly anna chorus of praise about Tubby is "negative."
I could say Tubby crossed the street to avoid that crowd and you would think I was being negative. When in fact, I made a simple statement.
Why do you people feel you need to be so defensive? According to most, Tubby's record speaks for itself. Yet, many of the Tubby Defense network feel the need to defend Tubby from all "enemies" real or imagined.
I also made a simple statement that I believe is absolutely true. Why are you so defensive?
Your post demonstrates a lot of conviction, but I wonder if you could point out any statement I make where I'm defending Tubby. I understand that you are frustrated because you think many on here are ignoring obvious problems, but you are directing your venom the wrong way here.
The only points I make here are that your post was negative and that it's ridiculous to immediately bash Tubby's coaching in an article about charity (not referring to your post).
Someone posted an article about charity, why can't we just let this thread be about that. It's not like there are no other threads where we can "discuss" the merits of Tubby's coaching.
There you go again...lol
AugustaDan
07-13-2006, 05:50 AM
Hmmm, I'll try harder to take the criticisms here more seriously. I had made a rather mean-spirited post here, but thought this was better.
While this type of thing does take time from Tubby's schedule, I think it's not that much time, and as the most visible representative of the University of Kentucky, he may have a requirement to do exactly this type of thing. While it's not a direct benefit to the basketball program (although that is not the program referred to in the title), it's a benefit to the University.
Also, since the money comes from the Tubby Smith Foundation, either Tubby had donated the money previously or it was someone else's money that was donated to the foundation. In a foundation, I believe that there is a requirement that at least 5% of the funds are disbursed each year, so regardless of how Tubby felt about the tax implications of this donation, it had to be done. I believe that the tax break aspect of it is somewhat tangential.
rickdacatkilla
07-13-2006, 06:27 AM
Tubby is one of the top three paid coaches in the NCAA,it's fair for fans to question his performance.
trublue4life
07-13-2006, 08:49 AM
rickdacatkilla wrote: Tubby is one of the top three paid coaches in the NCAA,it's fair for fans to question his performance.
The point is this thread had nothing, absolutely nothing...zero, zilch, nada...to do with Tubby's performance. It was a simple report of some very worthy charity work going on in Northern Kentucky. It's the same kind of community service and relationship building that most every coach of a major D-1 program does, including Little Ricky. How many times during his tenure here did we read about him doing a charity event to help the Boys & Girls Club in Owensboro? Gee, could that work have caused him to miss out on a recruit or did his being in Owensboro for an evening in July lead to the loss against UNC in the '95 regional final? The point is for anybody to jump on this thread immediately and take it hostage to the Tubby-better-do-better crowd simply points to how low many within our fan base will go with their agenda. Besides, the same bunch gripe because Tubby's not visible enough; he doesn't get out and promote the program; yada, yada, yada. Then, when he does the kind of thing that establishes good will and has a positive PR effect, he needs to get back to business and quit wasting time. There's a huge difference between legitimately questioning his performance and nagging his every move.
Wildcat Larry
07-13-2006, 08:52 AM
rickdacatkilla wrote: Tubby is one of the top three paid coaches in the NCAA,it's fair for fans to question his performance.
I'm not questioning your statement cause I don't have anything that says the contrary, but are you sure he's one of the top three paid NCAA coaches? Where are you getting the documentation of this? Just curious.
If you have a link to the list, I think it would be great to post at least the top ten on that list in another thread for some discussion.
Wildcat Larry
07-13-2006, 08:55 AM
I agree that Tubby's charity work would be a very small part, if at all, of what a recruit would consider in coming to UK. However, it might get the attention of some of the recruit's parents, and if the parents have a any sway over where the recruit signs, then it could be a good thing.
One thing I can say with complete confidence .... Tubby's charity work cannot in any way be seen as a negative for the program.
CATHYnKY
07-13-2006, 09:19 AM
:rolleyes::shrug:
WildcatDan
07-13-2006, 09:43 AM
bluegrassking wrote: Tubby can give the program a boost by either winning Championships and competing at the highest level or leaving.
These charity events are feel good nice, but have little to no impact on the court or in recruiting.
Tubby needs to worry less about the rubber chicken circuit and more about getting this team reloaded with the talent he needs to execute his antiquated system, because we all know he is not going to adapt to best utilize what he has.
For those of you who areunsure what an "Agenda Post" looks like, see above.
How many DIV 1 coaches do you think DON'T do stuff like this?
WildcatDan
07-13-2006, 09:51 AM
In a (probably futile) attempt to pull this thread back to what the original poster meant it to be...
I have to say that I am PROUD that even with all of the criticism and pressure that Tubby is under right now he finds the time to squeeze in a few hours for this charitable organization.
And when asked if Smith's job approval will impact donor turnout next Thursday, Stricker said he doesn't think the Tubby haters will be a factor.
"This is about the kids and the children and changing lives," he said. "Tubby is a first-class person, and I'm sure that he'll bring a lot more victories to Kentucky in the future."
rickdacatkilla
07-13-2006, 04:52 PM
trublue4life wrote: rickdacatkilla wrote: Tubby is one of the top three paid coaches in the NCAA,it's fair for fans to question his performance.
The point is this thread had nothing, absolutely nothing...zero, zilch, nada...to do with Tubby's performance. It was a simple report of some very worthy charity work going on in Northern Kentucky. It's the same kind of community service and relationship building that most every coach of a major D-1 program does, including Little Ricky. How many times during his tenure here did we read about him doing a charity event to help the Boys & Girls Club in Owensboro? Gee, could that work have caused him to miss out on a recruit or did his being in Owensboro for an evening in July lead to the loss against UNC in the '95 regional final? The point is for anybody to jump on this thread immediately and take it hostage to the Tubby-better-do-better crowd simply points to how low many within our fan base will go with their agenda. Besides, the same bunch gripe because Tubby's not visible enough; he doesn't get out and promote the program; yada, yada, yada. Then, when he does the kind of thing that establishes good will and has a positive PR effect, he needs to get back to business and quit wasting time. There's a huge difference between legitimately questioning his performance and nagging his every move.
Easy, I was talking about Bluegrasskings post, he was jumped forexpressing his opinion about Tubby. That's all. I just don't think any coachthat is paid that kind of money gets a free pass, PITINO included.Trust me, we didn't get our moneys worth either last year...
TrueblueCATfan
07-13-2006, 05:00 PM
rickdacatkilla wrote: trublue4life wrote: rickdacatkilla wrote: Tubby is one of the top three paid coaches in the NCAA,it's fair for fans to question his performance.
The point is this thread had nothing, absolutely nothing...zero, zilch, nada...to do with Tubby's performance. It was a simple report of some very worthy charity work going on in Northern Kentucky. It's the same kind of community service and relationship building that most every coach of a major D-1 program does, including Little Ricky. How many times during his tenure here did we read about him doing a charity event to help the Boys & Girls Club in Owensboro? Gee, could that work have caused him to miss out on a recruit or did his being in Owensboro for an evening in July lead to the loss against UNC in the '95 regional final? The point is for anybody to jump on this thread immediately and take it hostage to the Tubby-better-do-better crowd simply points to how low many within our fan base will go with their agenda. Besides, the same bunch gripe because Tubby's not visible enough; he doesn't get out and promote the program; yada, yada, yada. Then, when he does the kind of thing that establishes good will and has a positive PR effect, he needs to get back to business and quit wasting time. There's a huge difference between legitimately questioning his performance and nagging his every move.
Easy, I was talking about Bluegrasskings post, he was jumped forexpressing his opinion about Tubby. That's all. I just don't think any coachthat is paid that kind of money gets a free pass, PITINO included.Trust me, we didn't get our moneys worth either last year...Boy you got that right rick.......Pitino needs to pay back some for going to the NIT
trublue4life
07-13-2006, 07:45 PM
rickdacatkilla wrote: trublue4life wrote: rickdacatkilla wrote: Tubby is one of the top three paid coaches in the NCAA,it's fair for fans to question his performance.
The point is this thread had nothing, absolutely nothing...zero, zilch, nada...to do with Tubby's performance. It was a simple report of some very worthy charity work going on in Northern Kentucky. It's the same kind of community service and relationship building that most every coach of a major D-1 program does, including Little Ricky. How many times during his tenure here did we read about him doing a charity event to help the Boys & Girls Club in Owensboro? Gee, could that work have caused him to miss out on a recruit or did his being in Owensboro for an evening in July lead to the loss against UNC in the '95 regional final? The point is for anybody to jump on this thread immediately and take it hostage to the Tubby-better-do-better crowd simply points to how low many within our fan base will go with their agenda. Besides, the same bunch gripe because Tubby's not visible enough; he doesn't get out and promote the program; yada, yada, yada. Then, when he does the kind of thing that establishes good will and has a positive PR effect, he needs to get back to business and quit wasting time. There's a huge difference between legitimately questioning his performance and nagging his every move.
Easy, I was talking about Bluegrasskings post, he was jumped forexpressing his opinion about Tubby. That's all. I just don't think any coachthat is paid that kind of money gets a free pass, PITINO included.Trust me, we didn't get our moneys worth either last year...
While I quoted you I was actually responding to bluegrassking's post (and others) as examples of taking a thread hostage with the anti-Tubby drumbeat. It just gets old that everythreaddigresses intobashing and/or defending Tubby. There are plenty of threads (and I do mean plenty) that deal with Tubby's on court and off court performance as a coach. In fact, in a bit of irony, there's another thread on the same page as this one where some of the same posters are criticizing Tubby for not being visible enough in public:shrug:. IMO, this thread did not call for that debate. It is about helping disadvanteged children get a great opportunity due to the generosity of our coach and a lot of other people. That's all it was about, period. Why can't we all (since almost all of us are UK fans) just celebrate that and move on without using it as an opportunity to push an agenda?
nkycatsfan
07-13-2006, 10:24 PM
trublue4life wrote: rickdacatkilla wrote: Tubby is one of the top three paid coaches in the NCAA,it's fair for fans to question his performance.
The point is this thread had nothing, absolutely nothing...zero, zilch, nada...to do with Tubby's performance. It was a simple report of some very worthy charity work going on in Northern Kentucky. It's the same kind of community service and relationship building that most every coach of a major D-1 program does, including Little Ricky. How many times during his tenure here did we read about him doing a charity event to help the Boys & Girls Club in Owensboro? Gee, could that work have caused him to miss out on a recruit or did his being in Owensboro for an evening in July lead to the loss against UNC in the '95 regional final? The point is for anybody to jump on this thread immediately and take it hostage to the Tubby-better-do-better crowd simply points to how low many within our fan base will go with their agenda. Besides, the same bunch gripe because Tubby's not visible enough; he doesn't get out and promote the program; yada, yada, yada. Then, when he does the kind of thing that establishes good will and has a positive PR effect, he needs to get back to business and quit wasting time. There's a huge difference between legitimately questioning his performance and nagging his every move.
trublu4life, I couldn't have said it better myself. The link I posted had absolutely nothing to do with Tubby's performance. Why question it on this thread. If people are not happy with Tubby, start another thread to discuss it. I only linked the article because it was something good that our coach was doing. Whether you dislike him or love him as our coach, I have no idea how this thread turned into the same tubby bashing stuff that goes on here every day. I have my own opinions on the performance of our coach, but I'm not discussing them on this thread.
Lets get back to topic please.
bret1555
07-14-2006, 03:52 AM
All,
We should all agree, regardless of what we think about Tubby's coaching/recruiting ability that there is no real negative to this story. Here is a manwho grew up poor in rural Maryland, earned his way to a college degree, reached the highest level of his chosen profession, and gives back. Tubby does not do this because of some commitment to the University, nor does he do it for the tax break (which does not come close tocovering all the money he has contributed). The man makes a mint as the UK coach, but he has exhibited, since he has been here, that he genuinely cares about the community. . . In twenty-five years, do you think any of the kids in Tubby's Clubhouse today will give a hoot whether he got a commitment from Dan Werner or Tyrone Nash in 2006? Of course not, but they just might remember a guy who took time out from his busy schedule and really and truly tried to help them.
This is real-life, old fashioned, American philanthropy, here. Tubby remembers what my father once told me. . . "You have one hand to help lift yourself up & one to help lift others up." Let's just say thank you for being a good and decent human being, and forget about the few hours that he could've been on the "recruiting trail."
rickdacatkilla
07-14-2006, 09:37 AM
bret1555 wrote: All,
We should all agree, regardless of what we think about Tubby's coaching/recruiting ability that there is no real negative to this story. Here is a manwho grew up poor in rural Maryland, earned his way to a college degree, reached the highest level of his chosen profession, and gives back. Tubby does not do this because of some commitment to the University, nor does he do it for the tax break (which does not come close tocovering all the money he has contributed). The man makes a mint as the UK coach, but he has exhibited, since he has been here, that he genuinely cares about the community. . . In twenty-five years, do you think any of the kids in Tubby's Clubhouse today will give a hoot whether he got a commitment from Dan Werner or Tyrone Nash in 2006? Of course not, but they just might remember a guy who took time out from his busy schedule and really and truly tried to help them.
This is real-life, old fashioned, American philanthropy, here. Tubby remembers what my father once told me. . . "You have one hand to help lift yourself up & one to help lift others up." Let's just say thank you for being a good and decent human being, and forget about the few hours that he could've been on the "recruiting trail."
Agree..well said
TrueblueCATfan
07-14-2006, 09:46 AM
bret1555 wrote: All,
We should all agree, regardless of what we think about Tubby's coaching/recruiting ability that there is no real negative to this story. Here is a manwho grew up poor in rural Maryland, earned his way to a college degree, reached the highest level of his chosen profession, and gives back. Tubby does not do this because of some commitment to the University, nor does he do it for the tax break (which does not come close tocovering all the money he has contributed). The man makes a mint as the UK coach, but he has exhibited, since he has been here, that he genuinely cares about the community. . . In twenty-five years, do you think any of the kids in Tubby's Clubhouse today will give a hoot whether he got a commitment from Dan Werner or Tyrone Nash in 2006? Of course not, but they just might remember a guy who took time out from his busy schedule and really and truly tried to help them.
This is real-life, old fashioned, American philanthropy, here. Tubby remembers what my father once told me. . . "You have one hand to help lift yourself up & one to help lift others up." Let's just say thank you for being a good and decent human being, and forget about the few hours that he could've been on the "recruiting trail."
awesome post and TRUE...........:lol::lol::lol::lol:
BigblueDrew
07-15-2006, 10:19 AM
Whatever is said or not saidabout Tubby Smith's tenure and performanceas UK basketball coach, only an uninformed moron would dispute the statement that Coach Smith is a class human being. He is a fine man and his impact on many lives will indeed be felt for years to come.
CurlyCat
07-15-2006, 02:44 PM
The "negative tone" seems to me was taken because the title of the thread.
Tubby to help boost program
I too, take exception to the stated hypothesis that charity work helps recruiting or results in more wins. I can't follow that logic. Please allow those who believe the same to state their opinions without bashing them for bashing Tubby.
I'm not bashing Tubby, I just don't believe it boosts the success of our program. Sure, it boosts Tubby's reputation as the fine man he is and a great ambassador of UK, and the university as a whole. But it doesn't do what the title of this thread states.
And I imagine others are like me. I came to this thread's title hoping to hear what moves Tubby has made to help boost our program's success this upcoming season. I was sorely disappointed.
nkycatsfan
07-15-2006, 03:30 PM
CurlyCat wrote: The "negative tone" seems to me was taken because the title of the thread.
Tubby to help boost program
I too, take exception to the stated hypothesis that charity work helps recruiting or results in more wins. I can't follow that logic. Please allow those who believe the same to state their opinions without bashing them for bashing Tubby.
I'm not bashing Tubby, I just don't believe it boosts the success of our program. Sure, it boosts Tubby's reputation as the fine man he is and a great ambassador of UK, and the university as a whole. But it doesn't do what the title of this thread states.
And I imagine others are like me. I came to this thread's title hoping to hear what moves Tubby has made to help boost our program's success this upcoming season. I was sorely disappointed.
The title of the thread was right off the title of the newspaper article. Just because Tubby doesn't "boost" the program in the way you prefer him to doesn't mean that his charitable contributions don't "boost" the program in some way. I happen to believe they do. Sorry about your disappointment.
AugustaDan
07-15-2006, 04:22 PM
CurlyCat wrote: The "negative tone" seems to me was taken because the title of the thread.
Tubby to help boost program
I too, take exception to the stated hypothesis that charity work helps recruiting or results in more wins. I can't follow that logic. Please allow those who believe the same to state their opinions without bashing them for bashing Tubby.
I'm not bashing Tubby, I just don't believe it boosts the success of our program. Sure, it boosts Tubby's reputation as the fine man he is and a great ambassador of UK, and the university as a whole. But it doesn't do what the title of this thread states.
And I imagine others are like me. I came to this thread's title hoping to hear what moves Tubby has made to help boost our program's success this upcoming season. I was sorely disappointed.
It's the title of the article!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who read the article (and the title) to mean that it boosted the charitable program? How many people even read the article before posting here?
Where is the hypothesis stated that "charity work helps recruiting or results in more wins"? I'm really at a loss here. If ever there was an instance of people looking for an excuse to bash Tubby, this thread would seem to be it.
The responses in this thread make me very sad. :( Somehow, we've lost our sense of perspective.
trublue4life
07-15-2006, 06:44 PM
dxwils3 wrote: CurlyCat wrote: The "negative tone" seems to me was taken because the title of the thread.
Tubby to help boost program
I too, take exception to the stated hypothesis that charity work helps recruiting or results in more wins. I can't follow that logic. Please allow those who believe the same to state their opinions without bashing them for bashing Tubby.
I'm not bashing Tubby, I just don't believe it boosts the success of our program. Sure, it boosts Tubby's reputation as the fine man he is and a great ambassador of UK, and the university as a whole. But it doesn't do what the title of this thread states.
And I imagine others are like me. I came to this thread's title hoping to hear what moves Tubby has made to help boost our program's success this upcoming season. I was sorely disappointed.
It's the title of the article!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who read the article (and the title) to mean that it boosted the charitable program? How many people even read the article before posting here?
Where is the hypothesis stated that "charity work helps recruiting or results in more wins"? I'm really at a loss here. If ever there was an instance of people looking for an excuse to bash Tubby, this thread would seem to be it.
The responses in this thread make me very sad. :( Somehow, we've lost our sense of perspective.
You aren't the only one, and, like you, I'm blown away to realize others didn't get that. Again, I'm just baffled that a rather benign, feel-good kind of article about Tubby doing something to BOOST A CHARITABLE PROGRAM could produce the rest of this thread. It is a sad day, indeed.
SkyeBlue22
07-15-2006, 06:52 PM
it seems weird that people would criticize someone doing charity work. despite the fact that many think he needs to recruit better and be more vocal and in the media as well as many other things, it seems to me that those things aren't mutually exclusive. so, i say it is good for a well off, busy man to use his time for charity work. everything in his life doesn't have to be about uk basketball.
CurlyCat
07-15-2006, 08:06 PM
dxwils3 wrote: It's the title of the article!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who read the article (and the title) to mean that it boosted the charitable program? How many people even read the article before posting here?
Not the only one, but certainly one who did read it, unlike myself. I just jumped in head first without reading the article, just the topic and the subsequent posts.
Certainly, it is a good thing to do charity work, no matter who you are. And this is just another example of the things about Tubby that make us all very proud.
My previous post would have been better stated had I read the article. That was bad judgement on my part so, my apologies.
poodoo
07-15-2006, 09:24 PM
Wildcat Larry wrote:
One thing I can say with complete confidence .... Tubby's charity work cannot in any way be seen as a negative for the program.
Well-said, Wildcat Larry (even though the UK basketball program was not being referred to).Too, sure, it is a fact that Tubby gets a "tax break" for a lot of his charity work. However, if anyone has ever listened to Tubbysharehow his father raised him to serve and help others, as a part of his faith, I doubt he would doubt Tubby's motive, either seriously or jokingly. As so many who know Tubby well have shared, there is no better human being. I am proud that such a fine man leads our basketball program, period.
Too, nice apology, CurlyCat.
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