Bogans signs with Orlando (again)

[kipper265]

http://sportsline.com/nba/story/9552679

[Will Lavender]

Four teams in four years? Keith Bogans is the new Ron Mercer.

[trublue4life]

I believe Keith will stay longer than Mercer becuase I believe he works harder. I can't really back that up with any empirical data; that's just my hunch from observations while they were here. IMO, Bogans is the one of the most underrated player to come through here. From the moment I saw him in MacDonald's AA game his senior year of high school I fell in love with his competitiveness. If not for his sub-par junior year as a part of Team Turmoil he would be remembered as something special. Leaving as the fourth all-time scorer in UK history is no small potatoes,yet I bet the majority of fans would miss that question on a UK trivia test.

[DCWildcat]

I thought you meant OTS when you said Orlando. Lol. Another year of eligibility from him wouldn't hurt.

[Will Lavender]

trublue4life wrote: I believe Keith will stay longer than Mercer becuase I believe he works harder. I can't really back that up with any empirical data; that's just my hunch from observations while they were here. IMO, Bogans is the one of the most underrated player to come through here. From the moment I saw him in MacDonald's AA game his senior year of high school I fell in love with his competitiveness. If not for his sub-par junior year as a part of Team Turmoil he would be remembered as something special. Leaving as the fourth all-time scorer in UK history is no small potatoes,yet I bet the majority of fans would miss that question on a UK trivia test.
I would have missed it.

Think about that. Fourth all time scorer. In the history of the school. At Kentucky. Unbelievable, really. And still I see people arguing from time to time that Bogans was a flop.

Keith Bogans was about as good as anyone I've seen -- Mercer, Anderson, Shepherd, Walker -- as a senior. There were times when he was just spectacular that season.

[scathendo]

i think keith sometimes tries too hard and starts thinkin' instead of just playin'. if he is in a groove, he's as good as they come.

[Caveman Catfan]

Funny that Stevenson was the reason Bogans became expendable to the Magic.

[trublue4life]

Will Lavender wrote: trublue4life wrote: I believe Keith will stay longer than Mercer becuase I believe he works harder. I can't really back that up with any empirical data; that's just my hunch from observations while they were here. IMO, Bogans is the one of the most underrated player to come through here. From the moment I saw him in MacDonald's AA game his senior year of high school I fell in love with his competitiveness. If not for his sub-par junior year as a part of Team Turmoil he would be remembered as something special. Leaving as the fourth all-time scorer in UK history is no small potatoes,yet I bet the majority of fans would miss that question on a UK trivia test.
I would have missed it.

Think about that. Fourth all time scorer. In the history of the school. At Kentucky. Unbelievable, really. And still I see people arguing from time to time that Bogans was a flop.

Keith Bogans was about as good as anyone I've seen -- Mercer, Anderson, Shepherd, Walker -- as a senior. There were times when he was just spectacular that season.

Also, Will, I will believe until the day I die (not that it does me any good) that we were final four bound until Bogans' injury. That effected that team mentally more than anything. That teams ability to completely shut teams down defensively reflected Bogan's will to win as much as anything. Even on one leg he scored 16 points in that game, but was really hampered on the defensive end. Wade would still have been a handful but I will always feel we would have been moving on instead of Marquette.From the 2nd half of Vanderbilt on I loved watching that team play as much as any team I can remember and Keith had a lot to do with that.

[Doug Hardin]

We should start taking bets now: Who gets more minutes for Orlando at the SG pot this year: Bogans or Redick?

[kipper265]

Doug Hardin wrote: We should start taking bets now: Who gets more minutes for Orlando at the SG pot this year: Bogans or Redick?
Redick will definitely not be handed any time on a silver platter. The Magic already like Bogans (obvious since they brought him back for a second time). And also Bogans is a veteran now who defends, rebounds and is a tough physical guard....basically all the stuff Redick is NOT.

Then again, Bogans has played SF a bit thoughout his pro career, so maybe Redick and Bogans will be on the floor together at times.

[Doug Hardin]

Plus J.J.'s got some health issues, which works in Bogans' favor.

But with J.J., there's going to be some pressure for Brian Hill to play him a lot, at least early on, as there always is for draft picks that aren't clearly projects like Andrew Bynum.

[Will Lavender]

I just Googled the Magic roster.

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:: shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::s hock:

That is a BAAAD basketball team. That team will have to scratch to win 25 games next season.

They drafted Deiner and Redick? What?

[Josh]

They've got a good foundation with Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson. Howard is becoming a rising star, while Nelson is a hard nosed point guard. But other than those two pieces, there are a lot of issues. Just not enough quality talent to compete in The League.

[scathendo]

they won 36 last season witha mostly young team. that's 6 games behind washington who made it into the playoffs and took part in one of the most memorable series' i can remember. their home record was practically equal to washington's (1 game) and there division record was better. (granted orlando has some veterans and washington is almost completely young players). 15 of their 46 losses were by less than 5 points and they made a good late run. if orlando can win a few more road games or get a favorable bounce in a few of the close games then theycouldbe a playoff team.

adding bogans back into the mix, who played well for orlando as a rookie when i saw him, (he just couldn't get mcgrady to pass him the ball when he was wide open) and drafting reddick gives them alot of flexibility at the 2. bogans has shown he can give you8-10 ppg while given you alot of size, strength and defense. all you need from reddick as a rookie is to hit open shots (think steve kerr) and open the interior for the bigs down low.

the big question for orlando is 'will dwight howard continue to progress and become a dominant player ala gilbert arenas?'. if that happens then there is no reason orlando can't have a great season have an opportunity to make the playoffs.

[beachedkat]

From Orlando Sentinal -

"One thing is certain: The Magic's lineup won't look the same next season. The signing of Bogans ended the Magic's attempt to re-sign Stevenson, a free agent who started all 82 games last season.

They signed Bogans -- who played in Orlando for the 2003-04 season -- to a three-year contract for an estimated $8 million."

Not too shabby. And I'll have a reason to watch the Magic this year. :D

[bleedbluelady]

trublue4life wrote: I believe Keith will stay longer than Mercer becuase I believe he works harder. I can't really back that up with any empirical data; that's just my hunch from observations while they were here. IMO, Bogans is the one of the most underrated player to come through here. From the moment I saw him in MacDonald's AA game his senior year of high school I fell in love with his competitiveness. If not for his sub-par junior year as a part of Team Turmoil he would be remembered as something special. Leaving as the fourth all-time scorer in UK history is no small potatoes,yet I bet the majority of fans would miss that question on a UK trivia test.
I knew Keith was up there, but I would have never guessed that high. I've always had a lot of admiration and respectfor Bogansbecause he cameback and had a great Senior year after the sub-par junior season.

[kipper265]

bleedbluelady wrote: trublue4life wrote: I believe Keith will stay longer than Mercer becuase I believe he works harder. I can't really back that up with any empirical data; that's just my hunch from observations while they were here. IMO, Bogans is the one of the most underrated player to come through here. From the moment I saw him in MacDonald's AA game his senior year of high school I fell in love with his competitiveness. If not for his sub-par junior year as a part of Team Turmoil he would be remembered as something special. Leaving as the fourth all-time scorer in UK history is no small potatoes,yet I bet the majority of fans would miss that question on a UK trivia test.
I knew Keith was up there, but I would have never guessed that high. I've always had a lot of admiration and respectfor Bogansbecause he cameback and had a great Senior year after the sub-par junior season. Me, too. He's one of my very favorite Cats for this very reason. He probably had a bruised ego after testing the draft waters after his Soph year....then even more bruised with a sub-par Jr year. Then WHAM-O!.....a stellar Senior year.

Paging Joe C.....paging Joe C....

[audacious1]

beachedkat wrote: From Orlando Sentinal -

"One thing is certain: The Magic's lineup won't look the same next season. The signing of Bogans ended the Magic's attempt to re-sign Stevenson, a free agent who started all 82 games last season.

They signed Bogans -- who played in Orlando for the 2003-04 season -- to a three-year contract for an estimated $8 million."

Not too shabby. And I'll have a reason to watch the Magic this year. :D

3-year deal sounds good. I bet Keith is glad to have a little consistency now. Add Orlando to the list of teams that UK fans should follow.

[CurlyCat]

Will Lavender wrote: trublue4life wrote: I believe Keith will stay longer than Mercer becuase I believe he works harder. I can't really back that up with any empirical data; that's just my hunch from observations while they were here. IMO, Bogans is the one of the most underrated player to come through here. From the moment I saw him in MacDonald's AA game his senior year of high school I fell in love with his competitiveness. If not for his sub-par junior year as a part of Team Turmoil he would be remembered as something special. Leaving as the fourth all-time scorer in UK history is no small potatoes,yet I bet the majority of fans would miss that question on a UK trivia test.
I would have missed it.

Think about that. Fourth all time scorer. In the history of the school. At Kentucky. Unbelievable, really. And still I see people arguing from time to time that Bogans was a flop.

Keith Bogans was about as good as anyone I've seen -- Mercer, Anderson, Shepherd, Walker -- as a senior. There were times when he was just spectacular that season.


Hey good buddy, thought I should point out that Bogans is not a player we disagree on. Not for a second. I did like Keith Bogans. Still do and am thrilled to hear he is still playing in the league and still is highly compensated. :lol:

I loved the boldness in Bogans as a player, and his ability to back it up. :ggrin:

I loved Mercer when he played here and his first few years in the league. But something happened in that man's mind when he signed with Master P. And, I don't think that was the best move ever for Ron Mercer to make the most of his God-given talent. I still want him to do well. But at some point, I'd like to see him get back to the basics of the game, including hard work and a never-say-die attitude. I believe that if he did, the sky would be the limit for Ron Mercer. But I'm not holding onto that thread of hope.

[Athens2005]

Will Lavender wrote: I just Googled the Magic roster.

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:: shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::s hock:

That is a BAAAD basketball team. That team will have to scratch to win 25 games next season.

They drafted Deiner and Redick? What?


Are you familiar with a guy named Dwight Howard?

The Magic recently stole Darko Milcic from Detroit as well.

They are looking for shooters and slashers to play around Howard.

They are a rising team in a weak conference.

They just need to keep Grant Hill off the court.

[Doug Hardin]

Everyone overlooks Darko. Remember when Dwyane Wade said he wanted to be the first player from the class of 2003 to win a title? What an insult to Donnie Darko, who almost single-handedly led the Pistons to the 2004 championship . . . .

But seriously, I remember watching a late-season game between the Lakers and Magic which featured Kwame Brown and Darko guarding each other, andIthought, "A month ago, these guys were considered to be the biggest draft busts of the last 10 years, but now they actually look like legitimate NBA starters."

Orlando is considered by many NBA gurus to be a safe bet to make the Playoffs in the East next year, mainly because they have a very young nucleus that finished last season very strongly. Jameer Nelson is already an above-average PG, and he's only been in the league two years. Dwight Howard looks like he could be the next Shawn Kemp (without the army of illegitimate kids and the coke addiction, of course) after he had a few eye-popping boxscores this year where he'd get about 20 and 20. Maybe Darko isn't as bad as everyone thought. They'll also have a lot of cap space next offseason when Grant Hill's contract comes off the books. It's a good situation there now for Keith.

[poodoo]

bleedbluelady wrote: trublue4life wrote: I believe Keith will stay longer than Mercer becuase I believe he works harder. I can't really back that up with any empirical data; that's just my hunch from observations while they were here. IMO, Bogans is the one of the most underrated player to come through here. From the moment I saw him in MacDonald's AA game his senior year of high school I fell in love with his competitiveness. If not for his sub-par junior year as a part of Team Turmoil he would be remembered as something special. Leaving as the fourth all-time scorer in UK history is no small potatoes,yet I bet the majority of fans would miss that question on a UK trivia test.
I knew Keith was up there, but I would have never guessed that high. I've always had a lot of admiration and respectfor Bogansbecause he cameback and had a great Senior year after the sub-par junior season.


I, too, had a lot of respect and admiration for Bogans, bleedbluelady. Too, I always felt for him because a lot of fans wanted Rashad Carruth on the floor and were not always so kind to Bogans. He endured a few boos.

I still remember the sadness onBogans' face when he left the floor at halftime of a game during that junior season, a game in which it was obvious Rashad was the crowd favorite andfans were disappointed in his play.I just so regret that he had to play injured during his chance to make it to a Final Four. :(