UK's Triple Towers [Archive] - Wildcat Nation Forums - Kentucky Wildcat Discussion and News

PDA

View Full Version : UK's Triple Towers


4thecards
10-24-2005, 01:44 PM
UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.

crazycatfan
10-24-2005, 01:54 PM
They didn't play a 60 minute game. That was a misprint. i was there. It was two 20 minute halves with tv timeouts and all, just like a real game. the box score has Rondo with 60 minutes. He sat out at least once that I can remember. Same with Rekalin Sims.

TrueblueCATfan
10-24-2005, 02:00 PM
4thecards wrote: UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.
Me thinks you better start worrying about your own team.....you coach seems worried...

Cards R Best
10-24-2005, 02:14 PM
TrueblueCATfan wrote: 4thecards wrote: UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.
Me thinks you better start worrying about your own team.....you coach seems worried...I think you better think over that statement. I remember Coach Pitino saying this team was going to be VERY GOOD this season, so what is he worrying about. The injuries we have are going to develop our depth. But hey you have 3 more guards coming in next year so what do I know?

chworld22
10-24-2005, 02:17 PM
Cards R Best wrote: TrueblueCATfan wrote: 4thecards wrote: UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.
Me thinks you better start worrying about your own team.....you coach seems worried...I think you better think over that statement. I remember Coach Pitino saying this team was going to be VERY GOOD this season, so what is he worrying about. The injuries we have are going to develop our depth. But hey you have 3 more guards coming in next year so what do I know?And we also have a PF coming in do so to answer you question. Nothing is what you know. Or, you wouldn't be talking smack about basketball since the last game I remember playing UL in basketball we won. So go back to the drawing board.

TrueblueCATfan
10-24-2005, 04:01 PM
Cards R Best wrote: TrueblueCATfan wrote: 4thecards wrote: UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.
Me thinks you better start worrying about your own team.....you coach seems worried...I think you better think over that statement. I remember Coach Pitino saying this team was going to be VERY GOOD this season, so what is he worrying about. The injuries we have are going to develop our depth. But hey you have 3 more guards coming in next year so what do I know?ON the news your coach said after you little scrimmage last Friday night that this team is very young....and with young comes inexperience.....until your 2 injuried players are back at full strength...just reporting whatI heard

matt57
10-24-2005, 04:20 PM
4thecards wrote: UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.



lol, ok but let's look at the other side. rondo averaged 33ppg, 8 steals, and 8 assists. does that mean much???? of course not, it's a SCRIMMAGE.

Will Lavender
10-24-2005, 06:00 PM
4thecards wrote: UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.

How about thinking a bit before you post. 60 minute games? You every hear of typos? GEEZ.

And I was there. Both teams shot over 45%, so there weren't that many boards to get. I didn't see too many rebounding problems with the seven footers, but I agree that rebounding will be an issue with this team just based on how atrocious we were last year.

Yuleofell
10-24-2005, 07:59 PM
Jonesey,

You may want to consider that thinking cap idea yourself. If both side shot 45%, that means there were more misses than makes. Any miss must generate a rebound of some sort.

Will Lavender
10-25-2005, 09:00 AM
Yuleofell wrote: Jonesey,

You may want to consider that thinking cap idea yourself. If both side shot 45%, that means there were more misses than makes. Any miss must generate a rebound of some sort.

There are ALWAYS more misses than makes. Doesn't mean there are a ton of rebounds to collect, especially since many of the shots were three pointers and went long off the rim.

Again, I was there and I didn't see any rebounding deficiencies from the big men. One of them (Carter) wasn't on the floor that much to really show anything. Hopefully, you know, one those two seven-footers won't be the starter by the first of the year, but if we HAVE to rely on them I think we'll be alright.

Yuleofell
10-25-2005, 09:44 AM
" There are always more misses than makes."

Not always, in fact, there once was a Villanova team that shot .786 in the NCAA championship game and that was with a shot clock.

You are going to have to get some offense from one of your bigs. You cannot simply rely on outside shooting. If you cannot keep defenses honest you will hit a cold spell during a big game and end up sitting home watching Ul play on the television in the later rounds of the tournament. You better hope Morris somehow is available if you can't get Shag to score.

Will Lavender
10-25-2005, 10:56 AM
Yuleofell wrote: " There are always more misses than makes."

Not always, in fact, there once was a Villanova team that shot .786 in the NCAA championship game and that was with a shot clock.

You are going to have to get some offense from one of your bigs. You cannot simply rely on outside shooting. If you cannot keep defenses honest you will hit a cold spell during a big game and end up sitting home watching Ul play on the television in the later rounds of the tournament. You better hope Morris somehow is available if you can't get Shag to score.



I do hope Morris is eligible. In fact, if Morris isn't eligible we're probably a top 15-25 team because neither of the bigs is going to score much. Woo is the better offensive player, but he is still learning the game. I think the seven-footers will HELP this team, but they themselves are going to need help. They are complimentary players - no more, no less.

With Morris, however, and IF Randolph has improved his attitude, I really think this is Tubby's best team since '98. And to blow this thread totally out of the smack forum, I also think UofL will be very good this year. Both teams (when UofL gets their injured players back; if Morris is eligible) are top 5 caliber IMO.

4thecards
10-26-2005, 09:11 AM
Joneslab

You guys are going to have to get rebounds from those big men. I'm not talking smack either. Unless Rondo and Sparks hit every shot. Even Morris (when he comes back) wasn't much of a rebounder. I'm not saying UK will have a losing record because the Bigs won't rebound, but I think it could cost you some big games.

You guys will have very good guard play, which can carry a team far.

chworld22
10-26-2005, 11:43 AM
4thecards wrote: Joneslab

You guys are going to have to get rebounds from those big men. I'm not talking smack either. Unless Rondo and Sparks hit every shot. Even Morris (when he comes back) wasn't much of a rebounder. I'm not saying UK will have a losing record because the Bigs won't rebound, but I think it could cost you some big games.

You guys will have very good guard play, which can carry a team far.

That was last year and this is this year cards. Just because they didn't rebound that great in an scrimmage doesn''t mean that is that is going to happen in the regular games. These stats mean NOTHING untill the season starts. If the season starts and we still have rebounding problems then that is when I will be worried. As of now we have one of the best guards all around guards int he country if not the best as well as one of the best 3 point shooting guards in the and league not to mention the deepest benchs in the league.

So,I for one am not all that concerned with our reounding problems if they happen to pop up again. I am even more concerned with our foul shooting problems and if they work themselves out them I will be having a happy season this year.

wyldkatzky
10-27-2005, 01:44 PM
Rebounds, on the blue-white

Sheray Thomas 9

Rekalin Sims 8

Ravi Moss 6

Ramel Bradley 6



Not very impressive, but with all the turnovers we create i'll be suprised if any team that plays us even puts up more shots than we do, unless we give up the offensive boards like we did in the Mich St game. Oh, and whoever mentioned long rebounds, your probably right if our reserve gaurds picked up 12 boards.

Looks like Thomas and Sims are putting up a good battle for the 4 spot on the team, but I just think Sims is a much better scorer and will get the spot.

The 5 spot is really bothering us with rebounds, but we have good coaches and I'm sure it will get better. I can't wait to see how this boils down. Im looking at the situation if morris never comes back. We will have a weak spot down low compared to some of our competition, but I think it will work out besides, as one UL fan said somewhere on these forums about they're team earlier "besides we're just working on our depth."

Will Lavender
10-27-2005, 01:49 PM
4thecards wrote: Joneslab

You guys are going to have to get rebounds from those big men. I'm not talking smack either. Unless Rondo and Sparks hit every shot. Even Morris (when he comes back) wasn't much of a rebounder. I'm not saying UK will have a losing record because the Bigs won't rebound, but I think it could cost you some big games.

You guys will have very good guard play, which can carry a team far.

I think it's a misperception that the seven footers can't rebound. A lot of folks just sort of take for granted that because they're big, and raw, and more than a little awkward in Shagari's case, that they can't rebound.

The truth is that those two guys haven't gotten enough time in their careers to really tell if they can rebound consistently or not. I agree that they need to rebound the ball well because they're both going to get more time this year, BUT I don't know why you guys just seem to be marking it down that they won't be able to rebound. Based on what? A scrimmage where many of the shots produced long rebounds? Please.

4thecards
10-27-2005, 05:09 PM
Based on what? A scrimmage where many of the shots produced long rebounds? Please.



Well yeah, that and the last two years they've been at UK.

Will Lavender
10-27-2005, 05:30 PM
4thecards wrote: Based on what? A scrimmage where many of the shots produced long rebounds? Please.



Well yeah, that and the last two years they've been at UK.

You're talking about role players, though. It's like trying to see if a guy who's been a career pinch hitter is going to perform well as a starter. Stats don't extrapolate like that. Not enough data. They're not going to be great rebounders, but Woo especially can be formidable until Morris comes back.

And it amazes me how you guys know so much about UK players. I don't even know the names of your guys except Dean, the freshman point guard, Palacios and Padgett. :?

Yuleofell
10-27-2005, 06:21 PM
You know some times I play like I know nothing about UK's players. As a basketball fan though, I really do know a little bit about most of the top name teams around. I try to never miss an UL game, and will watch maybe 4 or 5 UK games a season though I have to tell my wife it is to pull against them. ( She is an IU grad and if she posted on this board she would probablyy be banned faster than GatorDan) My children could sing the IU fight song by their fourth birthdays.

Will Lavender
10-27-2005, 08:07 PM
Yuleofell wrote: You know some times I play like I know nothing about UK's players. As a basketball fan though, I really do know a little bit about most of the top name teams around. I try to never miss an UL game, and will watch maybe 4 or 5 UK games a season though I have to tell my wife it is to pull against them. ( She is an IU grad and if she posted on this board she would probablyy be banned faster than GatorDan) My children could sing the IU fight song by their fourth birthdays.

Something tells me that your wife would have no ground to stand on on this board. IU Fan can run NO smack against any of us after how things have gone for them the past few years. (Don't tell her I said that, though. ;))

TrueblueCATfan
10-28-2005, 09:19 AM
Yuleofell wrote: You know some times I play like I know nothing about UK's players. As a basketball fan though, I really do know a little bit about most of the top name teams around. I try to never miss an UL game, and will watch maybe 4 or 5 UK games a season though I have to tell my wife it is to pull against them. ( She is an IU grad and if she posted on this board she would probablyy be banned faster than GatorDan) My children could sing the IU fight song by their fourth birthdays.
sounds like a problem to me..

BigBlue75
10-28-2005, 12:40 PM
4thecards wrote: UK's three 7 footers were at it again in the Blue White scrimmage game last week. They combined for a grand total of 8 rebounds 3 blocks and 23 points in 122 minutes. They(UK) actually played a 60 minute game. So in a game and a half the towers averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1 block.

Tubby better hope all those guards can rebound.
Shouldn't you be more concerned about getting Padgett healthy than what our guys are doing in a bleetin' scrimmage game? Sheesh!