View Full Version : Who belongs in the Baseball HOF??
WildcatRick
08-25-2006, 01:45 AM
All these guys have already appeared on the ballot except Larkin. Who belongs in? Pick all that you think do.
Can you believe these guys actually got votes last year.......
John Wetteland -4
Rick Aguilera -3
Doug Jones -2
Greg Jefferies -2
Walt Weiss -1
cumberlandredskin
08-25-2006, 07:39 AM
I voted for all except John,Rice and Mattingly. But you could make case for each one of those. I admit I'm prejudiced for Concepcion. But I think he defined the articial turf SS of the 70's. He was a great fielder and a clutch hitter. He kinda got lost amongst all the other stars of the Big Red Machine. If he had played NYC I believe he would already be in the HOF.
Will Lavender
08-25-2006, 09:39 AM
If Ozzie Smith is in there, then Davie Concepcion has to be in as well.
As does Barry Larkin, I guess.
Watching Larkin the last two or three years of his career, I was just continually struck by what a great player he is. I even thought in his last season with the Reds, 2004, he was the best player on the team. I think if he could avoided injury he'd still be playing. A tremendous all-around baseball player. He knew, as they say, how to play the game.
MurphyLee
08-26-2006, 04:24 PM
Well you know I'm going to say Larkin and Concepcion,but I really believe that not just asa Reds fan.As somebody else said if Ozzie is in why not Concepcion.Larkin is maybe kind of borderline to some but I think he is definitely worthy of induction.As for the others a case could be made for most of them but the ones that stick out to me,without looking up numbers, would be Jack Morris and Gossage.
Littlemeyer
08-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Barry Larkin is one of a handful of Cub-killers that we came to dread playing over the years. That said, as far as Non-Cubs are concerned, he's one of my favorite players. I say he belongs in the Hall.
My heart also tells me that the Hawk needs to be in there. But my brain is saying, if he gets in, everyone else on that list probably deserves to be in as well.
jaspcat
08-27-2006, 11:27 AM
Of all this list, I think Andre Dawson is most deserving. If he hadn't spent the prime of his career in Montreal, he would've been a household name like Strawberry or Winfield.
My other vote was for Concepcion, because if Ozzie Smith makes on defense and longevity, so does Davey.
I'm a huge Larkin fan, but in the last half of his career, the accomplishments of SSs like Jeter, ARod, Nomar, Tejada, etc. make his offensive #s seem a little slim in comparison.
MurphyLee
08-27-2006, 02:01 PM
jaspcat wrote: Of all this list, I think Andre Dawson is most deserving. If he hadn't spent the prime of his career in Montreal, he would've been a household name like Strawberry or Winfield.
My other vote was for Concepcion, because if Ozzie Smith makes on defense and longevity, so does Davey.
I'm a huge Larkin fan, but in the last half of his career, the accomplishments of SSs like Jeter, ARod, Nomar, Tejada, etc. make his offensive #s seem a little slim in comparison.
IMO you can't think of Larkin that way.Larkin was basically a bridge from the strictly defensinve minded SS's that came before and the more offensive that have since came along.Larkin was very good defensively and a good hitter.Hewon an MVP award and if I'm not mistaken was the first SS to go 30HR-30 steals.
boomdaddy
08-28-2006, 11:36 AM
Pete Rose belongs in the HOF. I once shot the director of the HOF an email, stating I would never take my kids there, until Rose was included. He wrote back saying they had displays honoring his accomplishments and that it wasn't up to him but sports writers.
You got all of the drug addicts and roid boys who flourish in baseball and no room for Rose.
HOMEYCAT
08-28-2006, 01:38 PM
They used to use as part of the criteria, not only stats, but the question, "Did he dominate his era, or did he change the game?"
Pete dominated. Pete changed the game. Pete played on the winning team more times than anyone.
When asked what record, besides hit king was the one he was most proud of. He cited this one. 1953 wins, I think. Pete said, "Do you know what that means? It means you get yourself into the majors and get yourself on a team that wins a hundred games a year for 19 straight years.....then, you come get me!"
MSU Cat
08-31-2006, 01:57 PM
Will Lavender wrote: If Ozzie Smith is in there, then Davie Concepcion has to be in as well.
As does Barry Larkin, I guess.
Watching Larkin the last two or three years of his career, I was just continually struck by what a great player he is. I even thought in his last season with the Reds, 2004, he was the best player on the team. I think if he could avoided injury he'd still be playing. A tremendous all-around baseball player. He knew, as they say, how to play the game.
I loved Barry Larkin. He's definitely my favorite Cincinnati Red of all time. I was around during the Big Red Machine years so Larkin has my vote. The guy was fantastic.
Doug Hardin
09-06-2006, 10:12 PM
Larkin deserves to go in. Cal gets most of the credit for transforming the SS position--and deservedly so--but Larkin was right behind him.
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