Back to the original post, yes I do think that the officiating may be causing AD to not be as aggressive. What impressed me last night is how well the Cats battled with AD on the bench. I'm tellin' ya....these guys have decided the National Title is their's and they are not willing to let anyone take it away from them. Great coaching by Cal. We may lose tomorrow, but whoever takes this team out (which I don't think will happen) is REALLY, REALLY going to have to earn it.
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I haven't watched the film yet but my reaction after watching the game as a fan is this. The 1st foul on AD was questionable but, the officials were consistant in calling that foul all night, hence the 2nd foul on Zeller. Kynut, I think your reaction is justified to a point. However, The 1st foul on AD made him less agressive because he didn't want to get a 2nd. In the 2nd half, he got more agressive as time went on because he could take a chance. He is a very smart player and he knows how and when to adjust.
I think you are right........as the game went on in the second half AD became more of a force - either because the refs had eased up or because there was less time left in the game in which he could foul out - or a combination of both. It just seems to me that with all the talk on how to beat UK by the media the idea to get him in foul trouble has been reinforced in both the minds of opposing coaches and the refs, forcing AD to walk on eggs the rest of the way and thereby reducing his effectiveness.Originally Posted by lighthouse
kynut
PS: I just now finished watching the replay and agree that the first foul was BS (as was the second foul on Zeller). I believe the refs set out to call this game very tight early on to prevent any chance of problems breaking out between the players......especially the bald-headed ref. I'll be interested in your review.
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What this boils down to for me is, I don't think officials should talk to the coaches,
or at least let the coaches get in their ear as much as they do!!
It seems every time the camera flashed to Crean, he had his tongue
in an officials ear!!
All due respect to Sully, but I think Davis would own him like new shoes and walk on him all day. Sullinger plays to low to beat Davis. He's a below the rim guy with a powerful lower body, but no elevation. I think Davis would have a career day against him, on both ends.
First foul on Davis was correct. Knocked Zeller completely off his line to the basket. Let those kind go & socres will drop to even further like to 25-20.
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Dissagree vehemently, it was a cheap call, no reason to make that call that early
in the game. Unless you're just trying to send a message!!
Do you really believe the refs had it out for Davis?
If so, why?
"And I took the butcher knife and put it up to her neck, I said 'If you want to live to see tomorrow, you better start fryin' 'em eggs a little bit better than what you a'fryin' 'em. I'm tired of eatin' sloppy, slimy eggs!'"
Why read that into what I said? Did I say that?
Because in comment #4 of this thread, you said this...
...which was in response to me saying it was a stretch to say the bad fouls were a subconscious thing on the part of the refs. I then said that in that case, the calls were intentional and not subconscious, to which you replied...
...which leads me to believe that you do, in fact, think the bad calls against Davis were intentional.
"And I took the butcher knife and put it up to her neck, I said 'If you want to live to see tomorrow, you better start fryin' 'em eggs a little bit better than what you a'fryin' 'em. I'm tired of eatin' sloppy, slimy eggs!'"
I would guess that depends on what you're definition of intentional is! Do I think the refs
intentionaly called fouls on Ky. (or AD) NO!! Do I think the officials can be influenced by
an opposing coach before the game, to call it a certain way, YES!!
That first foul on AD in my opinion was a message, as to how the game was going to be
called, thats my only point! No conspiracies, no ulterior motives, nothing like that!!
But I do have a right to have an opinion, and I'm not afraid to voice it!
One other thing I made the mistake this time, but I wont reply to you're posts again!!
That's a conspiracy...
"And I took the butcher knife and put it up to her neck, I said 'If you want to live to see tomorrow, you better start fryin' 'em eggs a little bit better than what you a'fryin' 'em. I'm tired of eatin' sloppy, slimy eggs!'"
Yep, it also implies one of two things, either Cal doesn't work the officials (cough), or Cal is weak at working the officials. I think anyone that believes either of those is definitely in tin-foil hat territory.
You guy's can sure be great at reading whatever you want into a statement!!
Where have I ever said Cal doesn't work the officials?
The tin-foil hat is in your court!
AD's second foul was correct. He failed to hustle back on D and was out of position. I noticed a lack of hustle the whole night from AD. He was observing alot of plays instead of using his talents to affect those plays. I don't know if this was on orders from the coach to avoid fouls by not involving in plays or AD didn't want the hard contact from a physical IU team.
Kind of looked like every thing he did he had to think about it!! Agree with the second foul,
it wasn't very smart!!
Guess this is a conspiricy also!!
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