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    The nation's top 10 coaching jobs

    On Wednesday, the ESPN college basketball hive mind released its consensus rankings of every high-major college basketball coaching job in the country. (We also named our best and worst jobs in every mid-major league.)

    Naturally, this created no small amount of discussion among readers and commenters, discussion that we here at ESPN.com were already bandying about throughout the voting process.

    Which got yours truly thinking: Now that we've ranked the best jobs in every league in the country, how would we rank the best of the best -- the jobs every aspiring coach spends a lifetime pursuing? Consider what follows my humble attempt to do exactly that.

    For the sake of consistency, I'm using the same criteria we established for our initial voting, which was laid out in the rankings (see above link): "This is not an attempt to rank the programs or their histories. … When voting, our 14 panelists were asked to take into consideration facilities, expectation level, athletic budget, wins and losses, recruiting base, fan support/pressure and all of the other factors that go into determining the 'best' jobs in the ever-crazy profession of college basketball coaching."

    Based on that criteria, here's how I see the top 10 jobs in college basketball, from No. 10 to No. 1:

    2. Kentucky Do you hear that clicking sound? That's the sound of approximately 4 million members of Big Blue Nation (give or take a few) readying their angry replies to their beloved program's placement at … well, anywhere but No. 1 overall.

    Indeed, that may be Kentucky basketball's greatest strength: its fan base. UK fans are like no other in the sport, and like few others in any sport. The connection between huge swaths of the Commonwealth and the program it cherishes runs as deep as any such connection possibly could. That intensity alone ensures that Kentucky, come hell or high water, will compete for national championships on a regular basis. Big Blue Nation won't settle for anything less.

    That intensity also makes the job an unusually challenging one. Managing the expectations of an entire state -- or trying to live up to them -- is no easy feat. Few have ever done it better than John Calipari, whose media savvy and insane recruiting acumen have turned Lexington into the country's annual one-stop shop for future NBA talent. The Wildcats are coming off an Elite Eight, a Final Four, and a national championship in just three seasons, with a score of NBA lottery picks to show for it.

    So why isn't Kentucky No. 1? To my mind, the only thing holding it back -- besides the memory of the pre-Calipari days, and the sneaking suspicion that few others could possibly do the job Calipari has done -- is the aging state of Rupp Arena, which is in desperate need of that $300 million renovation that is reportedly coming sometime down the line. Were it not for Calipari's play-for-me-and-go-pro genuis, would Kentucky have as much to offer the nation's truly elite prospects?

    We'll find out eventually, I suppose, but for now, the question is almost moot. As I wrote above, the differences between jobs at this level are almost imperceptible. The point is, Kentucky is one of the truly great programs in the country, backed by the best fans in the sport. If you're a coach, and Big Blue comes calling, you say yes. It's really just that simple.

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    Seems fair. Hard to argue against their points for and against UK vs. UNC.
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  3. IU at 5?

    I would like to have Will's perspective on this comment.

    So why isn't Kentucky No. 1? To my mind, the only thing holding it back -- besides the memory of the pre-Calipari days, and the sneaking suspicion that few others could possibly do the job Calipari has done -- is the aging state of Rupp Arena, which is in desperate need of that $300 million renovation that is reportedly coming sometime down the line. Were it not for Calipari's play-for-me-and-go-pro genuis, would Kentucky have as much to offer the nation's truly elite prospects?

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    So the aging Rupp Arena is what keeps us from being #1...

    other than that the list seems pretty fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueblueCATfan View Post
    So the aging Rupp Arena is what keeps us from being #1...

    other than that the list seems pretty fair
    Well, there's also this:

    Of course UNC has the obvious things recruits want: great facilities, a chance at the pros, big-time exposure, a chance to play in the best rivalry in the country, a gorgeous campus -- you name it.
    And this:
    More than anything, though, it's the "family" -- the scores of current and former pro stars who still come to Chapel Hill to play in alumni games and watch the young guns take on Duke. More specifically, perhaps, it's Michael Jordan. There may come a day when recruits won't want to follow the footsteps of the greatest basketball player of all time, when they won't remember or care what MJ meant to the sport, when His Airness' nostalgic brand won't bless anything it deigns to touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowlingGreenUKGrad View Post
    Well, there's also this:



    And this:
    Can't argue with the best rivalry and gorgeous campus..UNC has that

    but no way can they top Joe Craft Center and the new Wildcat Lodge......IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueblueCATfan View Post
    Can't argue with the best rivalry and gorgeous campus..UNC has that

    but no way can they top Joe Craft Center and the new Wildcat Lodge......IMO
    I don't know if they can or not. I've never been to either UNC's practice facility or its player dorm. For all I know they could be just as nice as UK's. Or nearly so.

    As the article points out though, having Jordan as an alum is huge. If a recruit gets a call from Michael Jordan or gets to meet him when visiting campus, that's such an ace for a college coach to have in his hand. After reading that, I started thinking... who can UK pull out to match him?
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  8. I'm not convinced that it's a problem. UK is the name in high school basketball right now, so I'm not worried about Michael Jordan. Plus, frankly, I feel like we're nearing a point where Michael Jordan's pull isn't what it used to be. There are recruits out there right now who weren't born yet when Jordan won his last title with the Bulls. He's undoubtedly a legend in our generation and beyond, and I know he has the Jordan Brand that still means a lot. But his mystique isn't what it used to be - at least it's not unsurpassed. Seeing Jay-Z at UK games, and Lebron James and Rajon Rondo and the Thunder at UK games and the Craft Center in the summer more than makes up for it in my book.
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    ^ Yep. In 2-3 years, Cal will have at least equalized the MJ effect (I do have to disagree about MJ's clout waning).

    I think that facilities have to favor UK slightly, academics and campus favor UNC, locale favors UNC a bit, and the momentum is definitely all UK right now.

    UK simply has the "it" factor right now, and finally has a recent title to show for it. We've shown that we can showcase/prepare talent regardless of position, style of play, or opponent. There isn't a better place to prepare for a professional career than this program...at all.
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  10. Obviously with his clothing line he'll always be Jordan, but I don't think getting to meet him is the ace in the hole it used to be. Plus, as an owner of an NBA team, is Jordan even allowed to meet recruits anymore without getting the Jay-Z treatment to the tune of a $50,000 fine?
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    I just feel like most of the "it" factor UK has right now is because of Calipari. If he goes, I don't think there is another coach that can come in and be the rock star that Cal is.

    With Jordan, he's going to be there supporting the UNC program regardless of who the coach is. When you're talking about the UK "job" versus the UNC "job" you pretty much have to look at it without anything that Calipari or Roy Williams specifically brings to the program. Unfortunately, I think most of the panache right now that UK has is solely due to Cal.
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    ^ That's true, but the program must be able to afford a Calipari, Roy Williams, or Bill Self the tools necessary to be "The Gold Standard".

    The two entities (and they are separate entities unless a coach is at their alma mater) have to complete one another, and we're seeing that right now.
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  13. Yup. It takes the right guy to do it. Matt Doherty recruited well, but couldn't do anything with North Carolina's brand. Billy Gillispie got drunk and drove UK into a tree. Tubby Smith drove the UK Ferrari like it was a Cadillac.

    UK is the It program right now because of Calipari, but so is UNC because of Roy Williams.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by BowlingGreenUKGrad View Post
    I don't know if they can or not. I've never been to either UNC's practice facility or its player dorm. For all I know they could be just as nice as UK's. Or nearly so.

    As the article points out though, having Jordan as an alum is huge. If a recruit gets a call from Michael Jordan or gets to meet him when visiting campus, that's such an ace for a college coach to have in his hand. After reading that, I started thinking... who can UK pull out to match him?
    I agree, but if Cal keeps the recruiting going that he has been we may have our own Michael Jordan to use. Anthony Davis? or who knows who could come out of Kentuckys future classes and be a big name in the NBA. Not saying Rondo will be a big advocate for us or not, but if he keeps improving he will be a top player in the league. I know, I know, no one can replace Jordan. When you say 'basketball', biggest thing that comes to most peoples mind under 40 years old is Michael Jordan, who else can create a Brand of his own and compete with Nike? UNC will always have that.

  15. The biggest thing that Carolina has going for it is the 'Carolina family' attitude that's cultivated. That's something that once it's up and going, it's fairly self-sustaining so long as some dumbarse like Billy Gillispie doesn't come along and ruin it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowlingGreenUKGrad View Post
    I just feel like most of the "it" factor UK has right now is because of Calipari. If he goes, I don't think there is another coach that can come in and be the rock star that Cal is.

    With Jordan, he's going to be there supporting the UNC program regardless of who the coach is. When you're talking about the UK "job" versus the UNC "job" you pretty much have to look at it without anything that Calipari or Roy Williams specifically brings to the program. Unfortunately, I think most of the panache right now that UK has is solely due to Cal.


    You may very well be right about the "Cal factor" and for the life of me I don't know why more Kentucky fans don't realize the importance of Cal to our program. Some just don't get it and would tell Cal how to schedule and how not to schedule our basketball games and at least one would have Barhart and Capiluto to over rule Cal dropping Indiana.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Stucat View Post
    You may very well be right about the "Cal factor" and for the life of me I don't know why more Kentucky fans don't realize the importance of Cal to our program. Some just don't get it and would tell Cal how to schedule and how not to schedule our basketball games and at least one would have Barhart and Capiluto to over rule Cal dropping Indiana.


    Do you really think there is a shortage of Cat fans that do not realize his importance to the program?

  18. I don't know if I could handle the pressure of coaching Kentucky.
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