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Old 11-02-2009, 03:02 PM
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Question # 11, 11/2/2009.

First and 10 for team A from it's own 20 yardline. Quarterback A1 drops back to pass but is met with an all-out blitz. A1 is at his own 9 yardline when he throws a backward pass in the direction of A2, who is at A's 4 yardline. Before the pass arrives, defensive tackle B3 uses a block below the waist and from the front to knock down A2. The ball hits the ground and rolls out of bounds in team A's end zone.

A. B3 should be flagged for holding.
B. B3 should be flagged for a block below the waist.
C. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 30 yardline.
D. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 1 from its own 19 yardline.
E. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 24 yardline.
F. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 35 yardline.
G. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 6 from its own 14 yardline.


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Old 11-02-2009, 03:12 PM
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wow..I have done pretty good so far..... but stumped here

I am going with B
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:18 AM
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First and 10 for team A from it's own 20 yardline. Quarterback A1 drops back to pass but is met with an all-out blitz. A1 is at his own 9 yardline when he throws a backward pass in the direction of A2, who is at A's 4 yardline. Before the pass arrives, defensive tackle B3 uses a block below the waist and from the front to knock down A2. The ball hits the ground and rolls out of bounds in team A's end zone.

A. B3 should be flagged for holding.
B. B3 should be flagged for a block below the waist.
C. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 30 yardline.
D. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 1 from its own 19 yardline.
E. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 24 yardline.
F. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 35 yardline.
G. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 6 from its own 14 yardline.
Geeeeeesh....I would've called it an incomplete pass...but...that doesn't seem to be an option. So...
A. Holding
and C.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:13 AM
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I would have said it was a safety... must be a penalty, the play must be illegal block or whatever, and it's fifteen yards from the spot of the foul with an automatic first down. It's a block below the waist, and not a hold, because defenders can hold within five yards past the LOS.

D, which assumes B.


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Old 11-03-2009, 06:30 AM
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I knew this one would create some interesting discussion. What say ye, Dencat?


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Old 11-04-2009, 10:11 AM
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My head hurts. B and C


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Old 11-04-2009, 07:31 PM
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I'm still smarting from Question 10 (which I believe is bogus).

Anyway, I'll go with B.

The main question is where to place the ball. Since it was a lateral, the ball was live but the defensive player hit him before the ball arrived. If the ball arrived first, then there would be no penalty correct? It wouldn't be fair to mark the penalty from behind the LOS. Tough call but I'll go with the rrevious spot and giving a 15 yard penalty.

F: First and 10 on the 35.

Answer B & F.


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Old 11-04-2009, 11:28 PM
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First and 10 for team A from it's own 20 yardline. Quarterback A1 drops back to pass but is met with an all-out blitz. A1 is at his own 9 yardline when he throws a backward pass in the direction of A2, who is at A's 4 yardline. Before the pass arrives, defensive tackle B3 uses a block below the waist and from the front to knock down A2. The ball hits the ground and rolls out of bounds in team A's end zone.

A. B3 should be flagged for holding.
B. B3 should be flagged for a block below the waist.
C. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 30 yardline.
D. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 1 from its own 19 yardline.
E. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 24 yardline.
F. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 10 from its own 35 yardline.
G. If team A accepts the penalty, it will be 1st and 6 from its own 14 yardline.
Given just the info in the scenario and the answers to choose from I have to go with B and F. Blocking below the waist carries a 15 yd from previous spot enforcement. Since a backwards pass is treated the same as a fumble, no holding would be called.

Just to think out loud, so to speak, if the defender had been going after the ball and still hit the receiver, no foul would have been called. Since the ball rolled out of bounds in the end zone, a safety would have been called.


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Old 11-06-2009, 09:06 PM
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The correct answer to question 11 is, B & F.

RULE 9 Conduct of Players and Others Subject to the Rules.

SECTION 1. Contact and Interference Fouls.

ARTICLE 2. No person subject to the rules shall commit a personal foul
before the game, during the game or between the periods. Any act prohibited hereunder or any other act of unnecessary roughness is a personal foul

e. Blocking below the waist is permitted except as follows;


6. A Team A player behind the neutral zone and in position to receive a
backward pass shall not be blocked below the waist or contacted by

way of a personal foul.

RULE 10 Penalty Enforcement.

SECTION 2. Enforcement Procedures.

Determining the Enforcement Spot
ARTICLE 2.
c. The Three-and-One Principle (Rule 2-33) is as follows:


1. When the team in possession commits a foul
behind the basic spot,

the penalty is enforced at the spot of the foul.
2. When the team in possession commits a foul
beyond the basic spot,

the penalty is enforced at the basic spot.
3. When the team not in possession commits a foul
either behind or

beyond the basic spot, the penalty is enforced at the basic spot.







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